Maria Orsic

[Nazista lunar]

After the war, What happened to Maria Orsic ?

 

[Aquarius]

I think she managed to escape with Adolf Hitler. Either that or she went into hiding.

 

[magus.immortalis]

Maria Orsic is with Satan and the Powers of Hell. She is working alongside Adolf Hitler and other top-ranking Nazis.
She has reached godhead and is immortal.
I know this because I met her a few times in my room, she astral projected and she is my Guardian. I am open enough to hear and see my Guardians, as well as feel them clearly. She guided me to some things which she is good at and is her specialty.

 

[magus.immortalis]

Maria Orsic is with Satan and the Powers of Hell. She is working alongside Adolf Hitler and other top-ranking Nazis.
She has reached godhead and is immortal.
I know this because I met her a few times in my room, she astral projected and she is my Guardian. I am open enough to hear and see my Guardians, as well as feel them clearly. She guided me to some things which she is good at and is her specialty.

http://thegoddessofthedevil.com/uploads/The-Goddess-Of-The-Devil-by-Mart-Sander-full-manuscript-pdf.pdf

This is fiction, written by Mart Sander. I found him on Youtube when I searched for "Maria Orsic" and he mentioned he wrote this. I have only read two-three chapters over a year ago but liked what I read, and there's not a lot about Ms.Orsic out there, so this is a nice find, I think.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

After the war, What happened to Maria Orsic ?

She is witu the Gods now. Same as Adolf Hitler.

 

[Veritá_666]

Am I the only one who feels an extremely positive energy?
When I happen to read his name or see a picture of her, I think about it for a long time afterwards.
Can this be a sign of some kind?

When I read about her, it gives me motivation to meditate for trance.

 

[Serbon]

Am I the only one who feels an extremely positive energy?
When I happen to read his name or see a picture of her, I think about it for a long time afterwards.
Can this be a sign of some kind?

When I read about her, it gives me motivation to meditate for trance.

She didn't exist tho

 

[HPS Lydia]

Am I the only one who feels an extremely positive energy?
When I happen to read his name or see a picture of her, I think about it for a long time afterwards.
Can this be a sign of some kind?

When I read about her, it gives me motivation to meditate for trance.

She didn't exist tho

She does exist. Or did you write something wrong? Maria Orsic is definitely real.

 

[Aquarius]

I believe she's with the Gods, she managed to escape with Adolf Hitler.

 

[Veritá_666]

I believe she's with the Gods.

This is the impression.
Had he had any communication from a planet near Albebaran? Or is this a lie?
The "Sunni" are mentioned and they said they lived on Earth 500 million years ago, which sounds like a lie.

But in the end Albebaran is relatively close to the constellation Orion.

 

[Serbon]

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Am I the only one who feels an extremely positive energy?
When I happen to read his name or see a picture of her, I think about it for a long time afterwards.
Can this be a sign of some kind?

When I read about her, it gives me motivation to meditate for trance.

She didn't exist tho

She does exist. Or did you write something wrong? Maria Orsic is definitely real.

However, Orsic (who also crops up online as Marija Oršić and Maria Orsitch) never existed. There are no contemporary accounts at all to suggest such a woman lived during the Nazi period, much less possessed any influence or occult power. Both Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, the longtime professor of Western Esotericism at the University of Exeter, and the Dutch researcher Theo Paijmans – two authorities whose work on the occult esoterica of the period I believe can be relied on – date her first appearances to German-language neo-Nazi videotapes circulated in the late 1980s and to books based on the same distasteful source material that appeared in Austria after 1990, and suggest she was the invention of a pair of far-right wing occultists, Norbert Jürgen-Ratthofer and Ralf Ettl. The key claim made by Jürgen-Ratthofer and Ettl – that Orsic was real and that her existence is proved by mention of her in a 1930 pamphlet Vril: Die Kosmiche Ukraft. Wiedergeburt von Atlantis [Vril: the Cosmic Primal Force. Rebirth of Atlantis] – is false; the pamphlet exists, but it contains no mention of the medium. Various images supposed to depict Orsic that pop up all over the place on the internet have been shown to be composites. Similarly, the long list of purported contemporary sources offered by an author calling himself Maximillien de Lafayette, who is one of the main boosters of the various conspiracy theories that have Orsic at their centres – ranging from the "huge files" on her supposedly maintained in the archives of the OSS, the NKVD, and "the British Occult Bureau, an official branch of MI5" all the way to "Eva Peron's correspondence with Maria" – appears to be pure invention from first to last.

In detail:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/kl1uwb/maria_orsic/

 

[HPS Lydia]

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She didn't exist tho

She does exist. Or did you write something wrong? Maria Orsic is definitely real.

However, Orsic (who also crops up online as Marija Oršić and Maria Orsitch) never existed. There are no contemporary accounts at all to suggest such a woman lived during the Nazi period, much less possessed any influence or occult power. Both Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, the longtime professor of Western Esotericism at the University of Exeter, and the Dutch researcher Theo Paijmans – two authorities whose work on the occult esoterica of the period I believe can be relied on – date her first appearances to German-language neo-Nazi videotapes circulated in the late 1980s and to books based on the same distasteful source material that appeared in Austria after 1990, and suggest she was the invention of a pair of far-right wing occultists, Norbert Jürgen-Ratthofer and Ralf Ettl. The key claim made by Jürgen-Ratthofer and Ettl – that Orsic was real and that her existence is proved by mention of her in a 1930 pamphlet Vril: Die Kosmiche Ukraft. Wiedergeburt von Atlantis [Vril: the Cosmic Primal Force. Rebirth of Atlantis] – is false; the pamphlet exists, but it contains no mention of the medium. Various images supposed to depict Orsic that pop up all over the place on the internet have been shown to be composites. Similarly, the long list of purported contemporary sources offered by an author calling himself Maximillien de Lafayette, who is one of the main boosters of the various conspiracy theories that have Orsic at their centres – ranging from the "huge files" on her supposedly maintained in the archives of the OSS, the NKVD, and "the British Occult Bureau, an official branch of MI5" all the way to "Eva Peron's correspondence with Maria" – appears to be pure invention from first to last.

In detail:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/kl1uwb/maria_orsic/

I know what you are referring to. She is real, and likely hid her identity well. I know there is no record of her birth etc. But she is real. Read what some others have written in this thread.

 

[Serbon]

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She does exist. Or did you write something wrong? Maria Orsic is definitely real.

However, Orsic (who also crops up online as Marija Oršić and Maria Orsitch) never existed. There are no contemporary accounts at all to suggest such a woman lived during the Nazi period, much less possessed any influence or occult power. Both Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, the longtime professor of Western Esotericism at the University of Exeter, and the Dutch researcher Theo Paijmans – two authorities whose work on the occult esoterica of the period I believe can be relied on – date her first appearances to German-language neo-Nazi videotapes circulated in the late 1980s and to books based on the same distasteful source material that appeared in Austria after 1990, and suggest she was the invention of a pair of far-right wing occultists, Norbert Jürgen-Ratthofer and Ralf Ettl. The key claim made by Jürgen-Ratthofer and Ettl – that Orsic was real and that her existence is proved by mention of her in a 1930 pamphlet Vril: Die Kosmiche Ukraft. Wiedergeburt von Atlantis [Vril: the Cosmic Primal Force. Rebirth of Atlantis] – is false; the pamphlet exists, but it contains no mention of the medium. Various images supposed to depict Orsic that pop up all over the place on the internet have been shown to be composites. Similarly, the long list of purported contemporary sources offered by an author calling himself Maximillien de Lafayette, who is one of the main boosters of the various conspiracy theories that have Orsic at their centres – ranging from the "huge files" on her supposedly maintained in the archives of the OSS, the NKVD, and "the British Occult Bureau, an official branch of MI5" all the way to "Eva Peron's correspondence with Maria" – appears to be pure invention from first to last.

In detail:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/kl1uwb/maria_orsic/

I know what you are referring to. She is real, and likely hid her identity well. I know there is no record of her birth etc. But she is real. Read what some others have written in this thread.

I've read it, but I still am not sure. I'll research more.

 

[HPS Lydia]

" post_id=334878 time=1647448661 user_id=57]
I know what you are referring to. She is real, and likely hid her identity well. I know there is no record of her birth etc. But she is real. Read what some others have written in this thread.

I've read it, but I still am not sure. I'll research more.

I was hinting... how can people communicate with her if she never existed?

 

[Aquarius]

" post_id=334878 time=1647448661 user_id=57]

However, Orsic (who also crops up online as Marija Oršić and Maria Orsitch) never existed. There are no contemporary accounts at all to suggest such a woman lived during the Nazi period, much less possessed any influence or occult power. Both Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, the longtime professor of Western Esotericism at the University of Exeter, and the Dutch researcher Theo Paijmans – two authorities whose work on the occult esoterica of the period I believe can be relied on – date her first appearances to German-language neo-Nazi videotapes circulated in the late 1980s and to books based on the same distasteful source material that appeared in Austria after 1990, and suggest she was the invention of a pair of far-right wing occultists, Norbert Jürgen-Ratthofer and Ralf Ettl. The key claim made by Jürgen-Ratthofer and Ettl – that Orsic was real and that her existence is proved by mention of her in a 1930 pamphlet Vril: Die Kosmiche Ukraft. Wiedergeburt von Atlantis [Vril: the Cosmic Primal Force. Rebirth of Atlantis] – is false; the pamphlet exists, but it contains no mention of the medium. Various images supposed to depict Orsic that pop up all over the place on the internet have been shown to be composites. Similarly, the long list of purported contemporary sources offered by an author calling himself Maximillien de Lafayette, who is one of the main boosters of the various conspiracy theories that have Orsic at their centres – ranging from the "huge files" on her supposedly maintained in the archives of the OSS, the NKVD, and "the British Occult Bureau, an official branch of MI5" all the way to "Eva Peron's correspondence with Maria" – appears to be pure invention from first to last.

In detail:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/kl1uwb/maria_orsic/

I know what you are referring to. She is real, and likely hid her identity well. I know there is no record of her birth etc. But she is real. Read what some others have written in this thread.

I've read it, but I still am not sure. I'll research more.

I'm not sure if you can really find attendible truth from some marxists on reddit.

 

[Aquarius]

I believe she's with the Gods.

This is the impression.
Had he had any communication from a planet near Albebaran? Or is this a lie?
The "Sunni" are mentioned and they said they lived on Earth 500 million years ago, which sounds like a lie.

But in the end Albebaran is relatively close to the constellation Orion.

It's a she, not a he. The Gods are said to rule Aldebaran, and I believe it's Inanna's galaxy.
I'm not sure what this had to do with Sunnis, if it does, I don't even know who they are.

 

[Serbon]

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" post_id=334878 time=1647448661 user_id=57]
I know what you are referring to. She is real, and likely hid her identity well. I know there is no record of her birth etc. But she is real. Read what some others have written in this thread.

I've read it, but I still am not sure. I'll research more.

I was hinting... how can people communicate with her if she never existed?

I know but people can confuse deities really easy for someone else, Maxine talked about this in audio sermons.

 

[Manik]

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" post_id=334878 time=1647448661 user_id=57]
I know what you are referring to. She is real, and likely hid her identity well. I know there is no record of her birth etc. But she is real. Read what some others have written in this thread.

I've read it, but I still am not sure. I'll research more.

I was hinting... how can people communicate with her if she never existed?

no one can verify they Spoke to her. When there's no record of birth or existence, it normally means schizophrenia. Which is very common here.

 

[Veritá_666]

I believe she's with the Gods.

This is the impression.
Had he had any communication from a planet near Albebaran? Or is this a lie?
The "Sunni" are mentioned and they said they lived on Earth 500 million years ago, which sounds like a lie.

But in the end Albebaran is relatively close to the constellation Orion.

It's a she, not a he. The Gods are said to rule Aldebaran, and I believe it's Inanna's galaxy.
I'm not sure what this had to do with Sunnis, if it does, I don't even know who they are.

oops, translation error, I didn't mean to write 'he'.

This: https://www.saggiasibilla.com/2021/05/24/maria-orsic-vril/?amp
(In italian)

PIECE TAKEN FROM THE SITE:

"It was during those years that Orsic herself, together with other women with special powers, founded another society called the Alldeutsche Gesellschaft für Metaphysik, better known as the Vril Gesellschaft. The name was taken from a work of fiction published at the end of the 19th century. It was about this mysterious force, the Vril, which was similar to electricity but much more powerful, and could even change people's minds and thoughts. The aim of Maria Orsic and her affiliates was to help channel this cosmic force by coming into contact with intelligences from other planets.


For this purpose, Maria Orsic and her sisters, among them the mysterious Sigrud, who only called herself by this name from Norse mythology, and Traute A., kept their hair very long. They usually put it up in a ponytail to serve as "antennae" for communication with distant worlds. Maria succeeded in doing this during a séance, where she was supposed to be in contact with Dietrich Eckart. He had been a member of the Thule Society and wanted to be joined by Rudolf Hess and Rudolf von Sebottendorf, founder of the Thule Society.

The message collected by Maria Orsic

writing in trance
Source: tr1b.wordpress.com
It was 1924, and Maria Orsic was in Hess's Munich flat. The woman went into a trance and began to speak first with Eckart's voice, then with another, unknown voice. The one who was possessing her said he was the inhabitant of a distant planet in the constellation Taurus orbiting Aldebaran. She belonged, she said, to a race called Sumi-Er who had been on Earth 500 million years before, had survived the Great Flood and had given rise to the Aryan race. Later, Mary filled in sheets of paper with two different scriptures.

One of them turned out to be Sumerian; the other was unknown. The medium also had visions, which showed her strange disc-shaped flying ships. From that episode the Aldebaran project was born, with the aim of building these machines and using them to reach the distant planet of the Sumi with the energy of the Vril. However, the project took longer than expected. The war was raging, and it soon became clear that the Allies were winning and that Nazism would meet its end."

 

[Wotanwarrior]

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She didn't exist tho

She does exist. Or did you write something wrong? Maria Orsic is definitely real.

However, Orsic (who also crops up online as Marija Oršić and Maria Orsitch) never existed. There are no contemporary accounts at all to suggest such a woman lived during the Nazi period, much less possessed any influence or occult power. Both Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, the longtime professor of Western Esotericism at the University of Exeter, and the Dutch researcher Theo Paijmans – two authorities whose work on the occult esoterica of the period I believe can be relied on – date her first appearances to German-language neo-Nazi videotapes circulated in the late 1980s and to books based on the same distasteful source material that appeared in Austria after 1990, and suggest she was the invention of a pair of far-right wing occultists, Norbert Jürgen-Ratthofer and Ralf Ettl. The key claim made by Jürgen-Ratthofer and Ettl – that Orsic was real and that her existence is proved by mention of her in a 1930 pamphlet Vril: Die Kosmiche Ukraft. Wiedergeburt von Atlantis [Vril: the Cosmic Primal Force. Rebirth of Atlantis] – is false; the pamphlet exists, but it contains no mention of the medium. Various images supposed to depict Orsic that pop up all over the place on the internet have been shown to be composites. Similarly, the long list of purported contemporary sources offered by an author calling himself Maximillien de Lafayette, who is one of the main boosters of the various conspiracy theories that have Orsic at their centres – ranging from the "huge files" on her supposedly maintained in the archives of the OSS, the NKVD, and "the British Occult Bureau, an official branch of MI5" all the way to "Eva Peron's correspondence with Maria" – appears to be pure invention from first to last.

In detail:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/kl1uwb/maria_orsic/

She exists and is a real historical character, she managed to escape with Hitler and other high ranking SS officers.

 

[FancyMancy]

I believe it's Inanna's galaxy.

Aldebaran
Aldebaran, designated α Tauri, is a giant star measured to be about 65 light-years from the Sun in the zodiac constellation Taurus. It is the brightest star in Taurus and generally the fourteenth-brightest star in the night sky, though it varies slowly in brightness between magnitude 0.75 and 0.95.

Galaxy
A galaxy is a gravitationally-bound system of stars, stellar remnants, interstellar gas, dust, and dark matter. The word is derived from the Greek galaxias, literally 'milky', a reference to the Milky Way galaxy that contains the Solar System.

 

[Aquarius]

I believe it's Inanna's galaxy.

Aldebaran
Aldebaran, designated α Tauri, is a giant star measured to be about 65 light-years from the Sun in the zodiac constellation Taurus. It is the brightest star in Taurus and generally the fourteenth-brightest star in the night sky, though it varies slowly in brightness between magnitude 0.75 and 0.95.

Galaxy
A galaxy is a gravitationally-bound system of stars, stellar remnants, interstellar gas, dust, and dark matter. The word is derived from the Greek galaxias, literally 'milky', a reference to the Milky Way galaxy that contains the Solar System.

Yeah my bad, I meant constellation.

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

She didn't exist tho

Maria Orsic was the head of a group of 5 very advanced women who worked with the Nazis. It is said about them that they had `very long hair` which they used as `antenna` to communicate with `an extraterrestrial civilization from Aldebaraan`, that's what outside sources are saying. Obviosly in reality they were very advanced spiritually and most likely were communicating with the Gods telephatically. By the way if it helps in your research Maria Orsic was born in Croatia if I am not wrong, anyway I think it was Yugoslavia at the time.

 

[Serbon]

She didn't exist tho

Maria Orsic was the head of a group of 5 very advanced women who worked with the Nazis. It is said about them that they had `very long hair` which they used as `antenna` to communicate with `an extraterrestrial civilization from Aldebaraan`, that's what outside sources are saying. Obviosly in reality they were very advanced spiritually and most likely were communicating with the Gods telephatically. By the way if it helps in your research Maria Orsic was born in Croatia if I am not wrong, anyway I think it was Yugoslavia at the time.

There are actually no documents about her birth or anything

 

[HPS Lydia]

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I've read it, but I still am not sure. I'll research more.

I was hinting... how can people communicate with her if she never existed?

no one can verify they Spoke to her. When there's no record of birth or existence, it normally means schizophrenia. Which is very common here.

There is no record of the birth of the Gods, do you think the same of them? That it is schizophrenia to talk with them?

 

[Manik]

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I was hinting... how can people communicate with her if she never existed?

no one can verify they Spoke to her. When there's no record of birth or existence, it normally means schizophrenia. Which is very common here.

There is no record of the birth of the Gods, do you think the same of them? That it is schizophrenia to talk with them?

We'll, I can't claim to know. I don't know these ppl nor if anyone has a real experience.

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

There are actually no documents about her birth or anything

Lack of documents does not mean a person didn't exist. In many poor countries people are born without being registered anywhere and without any documentation, it doesn't mean they don't exist. The existence of Maria Orsic is well documented with plenty details and her activity and preoccupations are well known, like here for example, with details about family and place of birth.
https://nwo.fandom.com/wiki/Maria_Orsitsch#Fourth_Reich

Let's asume she did not exist, what would be the purpose of faking her existence? Like inventing a woman called Maria Orsic who according to this invention was a high-rank occultist in Nazi Germany, Who would benefit from creating such a story and how? I don't really see any reason why would someone fake her existence.

 

[Serbon]

There are actually no documents about her birth or anything

Lack of documents does not mean a person didn't exist. In many poor countries people are born without being registered anywhere and without any documentation, it doesn't mean they don't exist. The existence of Maria Orsic is well documented with plenty details and her activity and preoccupations are well known, like here for example, with details about family and place of birth.
https://nwo.fandom.com/wiki/Maria_Orsitsch#Fourth_Reich

Let's asume she did not exist, what would be the purpose of faking her existence? Like inventing a woman called Maria Orsic who according to this invention was a high-rank occultist in Nazi Germany, Who would benefit from creating such a story and how? I don't really see any reason why would someone fake her existence.

I don't know, I will research more on this topic when I have a bit more time.

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

I was hinting... how can people communicate with her if she never existed?

no one can verify they Spoke to her. When there's no record of birth or existence, it normally means schizophrenia. Which is very common here.
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There is a difference between not believing in the existence of a person because they don't have record of birth or existence (which alone doesn't make any sense because if a person did not have birth documentation or related, it doesn't mean they did not exist) and not believing in the existence of a person because one is stubborn and is deliberately denying the evidence about the said person's record of birth and existence. There is plenty evidence about the life and activity of Maria Orsic, as I said above I don't see a strong reason that would justify inventing such a character. Did someone win big amounts of money from this invention? Did someone manipulated people with this invention in a way that brought them any benefits?

 

[EasternFireLion666]

I believe she's with the Gods, she managed to escape with Adolf Hitler.

If this is true, the she already completed the Magnum Opus

 

[Aquarius]

I believe she's with the Gods, she managed to escape with Adolf Hitler.

If this is true, the she already completed the Magnum Opus

Yep.

 

[Veritá_666]

Hail Satan,
I found this girl to be look a like of Maria osric...
https://www.elitebabes.com/elena-m-premiere/

No, you are way off.