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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Drew Bolden <ditto6891@... wrote:
Yeah, i didn't really mean "us" i meant your idea of fantasy is limiting
yourself (not the group in particular). But it can lead to limiting others if
one person says, "Oh that's not possible" then what is the group gonna think.
And yes it is so hard to find specific things in JOS i don't know whether its
how its organized or not but everything i have said mostly came from memory but
i'm pretty sure it came from JOS.
Fighting in whatever dimension is irrelevant, for it is a dimension beings live
in just like this physical world. What difference does it make if you can throw
a fireball in this physical realm or another. So is it fantasy if you can do it
in the Astral? Its just another plane of existence. Also, i understand that
firing a "firebolt" is probably the most inefficient way to kill something when
you can just make fire appear at a certain location or any way you imagine to
kill the enemy.
I also don't recall the original user referencing lighting humans on fire. He
just wanted to know if we could fire "firebolts" and i don't think he specified
in what dimensions.
I'm sure if one is really good with the elements then they can achieve things
like combining earth and air in an instant in this dimension. It's so
frustrating for me when people put limits on themselves. You're putting
limitations on yourself and what you can do. Haven't you realized the world is
nothing like you thought it was? That ever since you became a Satanist a new
world of possibilities stand before you. I threw away all my old "its not
realistic" bull crap thoughts and turned to "anything is possible" because
everyday i find things i thought weren't possible but are.
Brother, if there is anything that you take away from this little argument, it
is "don't limit your abilities" b/c in the astral your fantasies can become
realities. And if your powerful enough and know how the universe works, you can
even do it in the physical. That is my real argument here; what I see here is
you labeling things you don't think are possible as fantasy and so constricting
your potential.
To the original poster:
First and foremost b4 you attempt to become some great mage, you must empower
yourself everyday. Do Power Meditations, work on chakras and Kundalini, it will
take time maybe other lifetimes if you don't reach godhood in this one but it is
possible.
Drew
Hail Satan!
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From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To:
[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 4:43:53 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: magick
Well, I AM after JoS and HP Vovim's but I wonder, where you've read such
things... Sure, kundalini grants us many things.
1. I'm limiting you (plural)?? HOW?? Tell me please, how am I limiting the
group?? You know, when I read/see the word "believe", I recall the xian stench -
and no, I'm not calling you a xian.
2. Well, I'd gladly read about those mages. I'm sure it would be interesting to
read it - seriously. If you can recall it, you should approximately know where
it is.
3. Fighting greys, yes - BUT greys are of DIFFERENT frequency, therefore they
are susceptible to energy manipulation more than an undeveloped human. Mixing
air and fire element - I remeber it as well, but do you really think it would be
just like that to condense in a matter of second a fireball? And I bet 1
fireball would not be enough...
4. Visualising blue fire towards the ASTRAL entities is NOT the same as setting
an object (a human for instance) on fire, don't you think? Let alone the fact
that the Gods are far more advanced than we are... and as you said, They did it.
(don't have to look for it - I might have also read it, or something of this
nature, so we agree here in 100%).
I'm not a newbie, I know that what others consider to be fantasy is mostly
possible, yet it would require a HELLUVA tough and trained mind to do some of
the fantasy stuff as making a creature out of nothing, some summonings or any
other typically unrealistic stuff. This is what I call fantasy - and I do not
confuse it with occultism.
HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Drew Bolden <ditto6891@ wrote:
Sorry it HP Vovim Baghie not Vavim.
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From: ditto6891 <ditto6891@
To:
[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 3:51:24 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: magick
I disagree, and if you have been through JOS and HP Vovim Baghie's sites you
wouldn't be saying such things.
1. You are limiting us. I believe we have the power to do amazing things and
shooting fireballs out of our hands is not even close to some of the amazing
things we can do once we reach godhood or even now if we empower ourselves.
2. I recall HP Maxine talking about great mages that could destroy armies with
fire or however they felt.
3.Also HP Vavim talks about fighting greys and reptilians with fire and i think
even how to create fire in the physical realm (something about mixing air and
fire elements together).
4. I also recall a post or article under one of the HP (i think but i can't
find
it). They were being attacked by the enemy aliens and the person called out
their GD and they came blasting the aliens with blue fire. I can't find the
story and i may be telling it inaccurately but i recall something of that
nature
here.
Point being if somebody wants to be like Gandalf let them dream for our
thoughts
have power. To tell someone that is fantasy is absurd. I bet most of the
world
thinks the things we do in Satanism is fantasy. I daydream everyday of flying
through the skies and visiting places, and fighting Father Satan's enemies with
fire, swords, and ways most don't think about. Anything is possible once we
are
strong enough. You should look up some of the alien technology. Things
written
in books that are said to be just Sci-fi do exist.
Sorry for the rant
Drew
Hail Satan!
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" <siguarddraconis@
wrote:
You know, I'm of the impression that you are confusing Spiritual Satanism
with
fantasy.
Maybe study
www.joyofsatan.com and than think about becoming a magician.
HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jack.ass27" <jack.ass27@ wrote:
hi, im a newbie here, and um, I got this question:
If a person is really skilled with satanic magic, can he blast firebolts
instantly like in lord of the rings?