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Kali mantra's to destroy Karma?

luis

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I was reading a book where they listed the mantra's of the Hindu God's (well we know that they are our God's) with their proprety and while some where clear (like Saraswati for increasing intelligence and Lahksmi for prosperity) some where not...

Kali is the destroyer of Ego, now we know that this Ego has to be destroyed bullshit comes from the corruption done by the Jews, we need our ego, what we do not need is our False Ego wich i remember HP Mageson called it in this way, False Ego means our Negative Karma that we know we need to destroy if we want to advance.

So what do you think? Can the Kali mantra's be used to destroy the Negative Karma our "False Ego"? Has anyone tried it?
 
I haven't tried it but others like Shael or Savitar might have.
 
luis said:
Jack said:
I have never used this mantra, but here is what Frawley said about it in his book:

(Important parts in bold)
Bija Mantras said:
The Goddess Kali is one of the main deities of the practice of Yoga. She represents the reabsorption of the time bound universe back into its eternal source. She governs over the process of mergence. She is the power through which earth is dissolved into water, water into fire, fire into air, air into ether, ether into mind and mind into pure consciousness. She represents the movement back through the Tattvas to the Purusha beyond them. She grants the highest strength, energy and vitality, but one must be strong oneself in order to carry her indomitable force. Kali relates to the great prana mantra Krim. It also occurs as three syllables -Krim Hum Hrim-or as seven syllables: Krim Krim Krim Hum Hum Hrim Hrim. Another set of three syllables for Kali is: Hrim Srim Krim! Kali grants the prana of eternity that can overcome all the negative energies born of time.

The Kali Bijas, Krim Hum Hrim, are powerful for Tejas, particularly in the root chakra and the heart.

...

Such deities provide us with an intimate and personal connection with the Divine and our higher Self. Whether for spiritual or mundane purposes, a mantra is usually connected to the propitiation of the appropriate deity or aspect of the Divine for the purpose involved, like Lakshmi for wealth, Sarasvati for learning, Kali for strength, or Shiva for peace.

...

Yet working with Kundalini, we must remember that Kundalini is a form of the Goddess. She is closely connected to Kali, the dark Goddess of Infinite Space who represents Kriya Shakti or the power of yogic action. Kali works to set in motion the inner process of Yoga or self-integration within us. This proceeds through the dissolution of our attachment to the external world. Through it the external world gets withdrawn into the tattvas or cosmic principles, taking us back step by step from the gross elements to the Purusha or pure awareness, the higher Self.

...

Krim is the seed mantra of Kali, the Goddess of time and transformation, the consort of Lord Shiva, the Destroyer/Transformer in the Hindu trinity of great deities. Through it, we set Kali's power in motion within us. It serves to energize things to the highest level, which is to raise their level of vibration to the point where we can return to the source.

...

Hum with a long vowel sound has a similar meaning but a more feminine and Shakti quality. It relates to fierce forms of the Goddess like Kali, Chandi and Chhinnamasta. It has the power to cut off and indicates the sword.

...

Svaha is repeated after mantras at Yajnas (fire sacrifices) while one is offering grains or anything else into the fire. Yet it is also used after mantras that one wants to project more fire energies with, like Kali and Tara mantras.

...

Combinations of these mantras can be used, particularly relative to deities, like the the Kali mantra Krim Hum Hrim to bring energy and light to all the chakras or the Sundari mantra Hrim Srim Klim to bring bliss and contentment.

...

The three have masculine and feminine forms as Brahma/Sarasvati, Vishnu/Lakshmi, and Shiva/Kali. It is the feminine forms that are most connected to speech and mantra. Generally, the Goddess Sarasvati, who relates to knowledge and to creative power, is the main Goddess of speech, communication, poetry and music. But the other two forms of the Goddess also relate to speech in different aspects. Lakshmi is the loving or nurturing form of speech, speech at a devotional level. Kali is the energetic or transformative form of speech, speech at a pranic level. As indicating the power of Shakti overall, Kali reflects higher forms of speech in which the Divine Word awakens within us and withdraws us back into the Absolute, revealing the beauty and bliss beyond time and space.

...

Sundari is a Goddess of love, beauty, delight and Soma. She is the deity of the mystic Moon which is also the energy of the crown chakra. Her grace is most sought after in the higher Yoga practices. She allows the immortal Soma nectar to flow from the thousand-petal lotus above, granting all higher powers of speech and mantra. Generally called Tripura Sundari or the "Beauty of the Three Worlds", she represents the benign aspect of Shiva's consort, whose fierce form is Kali.

...

Durga represents the Great Mother in her protective role. She rides a lion and carries the weapons of the Gods and leads the army of the Gods to destroy all negativity. Worshipping her is one of the best places to begin to honor the Mother. Kali is often regarded as her fiercer manifestation.
According to his book, Kali also connects to the elements of Air and Fire.

You can most likely use this for cleaning if you're feeling experimental, but stay careful. From what I see in Frawleys book it seems that Kali is very similar to the purifying fire of the Kundalini, which has been said in the past to make dirty people go insane after they tried to push their kundalini upwards by force.
That being said you'll probably be fine as long as you include proper safety clauses in your affirmation.

For anybody who is interested in trying this, it seems that her mantra is "Krim Hum Hrim" or "Hrim Srim Krim". There might be a mantra for her name itself as well, but I did not find that anywhere. The "Hum" is done with a dragged-out "u". There is normally a line above the "u" to indicate this, but my phone decided it doesn't want to copy that character. :roll:

Optimally I'd suggest using that seed mantra together with her name itself, but I do not know the mantra form. Maybe someone else does. It would go like this, "Aum Krim Hum Hrim [Kali name] Svaha". Maybe it's Kaliya?

If we're taking Frawleys book as an example, then names ending with "a" get a "ya", so "Indra" becomes "Indraya". Names that end with "i", like "Nirriti" have the "i" replaced with "aye", so Nirriti becomes "Nirrtaye". By this logic, Kali would become "Kalaye". So the mantra would be "Aum Krim Hum Hrim Kalaye Svaha".

Maybe someone who knows Sanskrit well will see this and chime in to give a definitive answer.
 
Shael said:
luis said:
Jack said:
I have never used this mantra, but here is what Frawley said about it in his book:

(Important parts in bold)
Bija Mantras said:
The Goddess Kali is one of the main deities of the practice of Yoga. She represents the reabsorption of the time bound universe back into its eternal source. She governs over the process of mergence. She is the power through which earth is dissolved into water, water into fire, fire into air, air into ether, ether into mind and mind into pure consciousness. She represents the movement back through the Tattvas to the Purusha beyond them. She grants the highest strength, energy and vitality, but one must be strong oneself in order to carry her indomitable force. Kali relates to the great prana mantra Krim. It also occurs as three syllables -Krim Hum Hrim-or as seven syllables: Krim Krim Krim Hum Hum Hrim Hrim. Another set of three syllables for Kali is: Hrim Srim Krim! Kali grants the prana of eternity that can overcome all the negative energies born of time.

The Kali Bijas, Krim Hum Hrim, are powerful for Tejas, particularly in the root chakra and the heart.

...

Such deities provide us with an intimate and personal connection with the Divine and our higher Self. Whether for spiritual or mundane purposes, a mantra is usually connected to the propitiation of the appropriate deity or aspect of the Divine for the purpose involved, like Lakshmi for wealth, Sarasvati for learning, Kali for strength, or Shiva for peace.

...

Yet working with Kundalini, we must remember that Kundalini is a form of the Goddess. She is closely connected to Kali, the dark Goddess of Infinite Space who represents Kriya Shakti or the power of yogic action. Kali works to set in motion the inner process of Yoga or self-integration within us. This proceeds through the dissolution of our attachment to the external world. Through it the external world gets withdrawn into the tattvas or cosmic principles, taking us back step by step from the gross elements to the Purusha or pure awareness, the higher Self.

...

Krim is the seed mantra of Kali, the Goddess of time and transformation, the consort of Lord Shiva, the Destroyer/Transformer in the Hindu trinity of great deities. Through it, we set Kali's power in motion within us. It serves to energize things to the highest level, which is to raise their level of vibration to the point where we can return to the source.

...

Hum with a long vowel sound has a similar meaning but a more feminine and Shakti quality. It relates to fierce forms of the Goddess like Kali, Chandi and Chhinnamasta. It has the power to cut off and indicates the sword.

...

Svaha is repeated after mantras at Yajnas (fire sacrifices) while one is offering grains or anything else into the fire. Yet it is also used after mantras that one wants to project more fire energies with, like Kali and Tara mantras.

...

Combinations of these mantras can be used, particularly relative to deities, like the the Kali mantra Krim Hum Hrim to bring energy and light to all the chakras or the Sundari mantra Hrim Srim Klim to bring bliss and contentment.

...

The three have masculine and feminine forms as Brahma/Sarasvati, Vishnu/Lakshmi, and Shiva/Kali. It is the feminine forms that are most connected to speech and mantra. Generally, the Goddess Sarasvati, who relates to knowledge and to creative power, is the main Goddess of speech, communication, poetry and music. But the other two forms of the Goddess also relate to speech in different aspects. Lakshmi is the loving or nurturing form of speech, speech at a devotional level. Kali is the energetic or transformative form of speech, speech at a pranic level. As indicating the power of Shakti overall, Kali reflects higher forms of speech in which the Divine Word awakens within us and withdraws us back into the Absolute, revealing the beauty and bliss beyond time and space.

...

Sundari is a Goddess of love, beauty, delight and Soma. She is the deity of the mystic Moon which is also the energy of the crown chakra. Her grace is most sought after in the higher Yoga practices. She allows the immortal Soma nectar to flow from the thousand-petal lotus above, granting all higher powers of speech and mantra. Generally called Tripura Sundari or the "Beauty of the Three Worlds", she represents the benign aspect of Shiva's consort, whose fierce form is Kali.

...

Durga represents the Great Mother in her protective role. She rides a lion and carries the weapons of the Gods and leads the army of the Gods to destroy all negativity. Worshipping her is one of the best places to begin to honor the Mother. Kali is often regarded as her fiercer manifestation.
According to his book, Kali also connects to the elements of Air and Fire.

You can most likely use this for cleaning if you're feeling experimental, but stay careful. From what I see in Frawleys book it seems that Kali is very similar to the purifying fire of the Kundalini, which has been said in the past to make dirty people go insane after they tried to push their kundalini upwards by force.
That being said you'll probably be fine as long as you include proper safety clauses in your affirmation.

For anybody who is interested in trying this, it seems that her mantra is "Krim Hum Hrim" or "Hrim Srim Krim". There might be a mantra for her name itself as well, but I did not find that anywhere. The "Hum" is done with a dragged-out "u". There is normally a line above the "u" to indicate this, but my phone decided it doesn't want to copy that character. :roll:

Optimally I'd suggest using that seed mantra together with her name itself, but I do not know the mantra form. Maybe someone else does. It would go like this, "Aum Krim Hum Hrim [Kali name] Svaha". Maybe it's Kaliya?

If we're taking Frawleys book as an example, then names ending with "a" get a "ya", so "Indra" becomes "Indraya". Names that end with "i", like "Nirriti" have the "i" replaced with "aye", so Nirriti becomes "Nirrtaye". By this logic, Kali would become "Kalaye". So the mantra would be "Aum Krim Hum Hrim Kalaye Svaha".

Maybe someone who knows Sanskrit well will see this and chime in to give a definitive answer.
As per this information I can posit that this is a mantra for tattwa shuddhi loosely translated as 'Purification of the Elements'. This mantra could be used for inner yogic transformation meaning cleaning and transforming (strengthening) the chakras and the nadis for a higher vibrational level,required for the ascent of the kundalini. It doesn't seem to have any kind of material significance although it's based on an inner deep spiritual change. Like the merbaka but probably on a more hardcore level. More information is required on this, though.
 
The described reabsorption is the element into one another in ascending order is the effect of the kundalini rising through the chakras in the sushumna.

The dative case of Kali is "Kalyai". The first 'a' is a long one. The pronunciation of "yai" is the same as the one of the Lakshmi mantra in the money spellbook.
 
Stormblood said:
The dative case of Kali is "Kalyai". The first 'a' is a long one. The pronunciation of "yai" is the same as the one of the Lakshmi mantra in the money spellbook.
Appreciate you chiming in.

In that case the mantra form would be "Aum Krim Hum Hrim Kalyai Svaha", for anyone who wants to give it a try as a cleaning mantra. :)
 
Stormblood said:
The described reabsorption is the element into one another in ascending order is the effect of the kundalini rising through the chakras in the sushumna.

The dative case of Kali is "Kalyai". The first 'a' is a long one. The pronunciation of "yai" is the same as the one of the Lakshmi mantra in the money spellbook.
This is a very interesting observation which seems to correlate to 'Tattwa Shuddhi' as I mentioned before.
 
Jack said:
Shael said:
luis said:
Jack said:
I have never used this mantra, but here is what Frawley said about it in his book:

(Important parts in bold)
Bija Mantras said:
The Goddess Kali is one of the main deities of the practice of Yoga. She represents the reabsorption of the time bound universe back into its eternal source. She governs over the process of mergence. She is the power through which earth is dissolved into water, water into fire, fire into air, air into ether, ether into mind and mind into pure consciousness. She represents the movement back through the Tattvas to the Purusha beyond them. She grants the highest strength, energy and vitality, but one must be strong oneself in order to carry her indomitable force. Kali relates to the great prana mantra Krim. It also occurs as three syllables -Krim Hum Hrim-or as seven syllables: Krim Krim Krim Hum Hum Hrim Hrim. Another set of three syllables for Kali is: Hrim Srim Krim! Kali grants the prana of eternity that can overcome all the negative energies born of time.

The Kali Bijas, Krim Hum Hrim, are powerful for Tejas, particularly in the root chakra and the heart.

...

Such deities provide us with an intimate and personal connection with the Divine and our higher Self. Whether for spiritual or mundane purposes, a mantra is usually connected to the propitiation of the appropriate deity or aspect of the Divine for the purpose involved, like Lakshmi for wealth, Sarasvati for learning, Kali for strength, or Shiva for peace.

...

Yet working with Kundalini, we must remember that Kundalini is a form of the Goddess. She is closely connected to Kali, the dark Goddess of Infinite Space who represents Kriya Shakti or the power of yogic action. Kali works to set in motion the inner process of Yoga or self-integration within us. This proceeds through the dissolution of our attachment to the external world. Through it the external world gets withdrawn into the tattvas or cosmic principles, taking us back step by step from the gross elements to the Purusha or pure awareness, the higher Self.

...

Krim is the seed mantra of Kali, the Goddess of time and transformation, the consort of Lord Shiva, the Destroyer/Transformer in the Hindu trinity of great deities. Through it, we set Kali's power in motion within us. It serves to energize things to the highest level, which is to raise their level of vibration to the point where we can return to the source.

...

Hum with a long vowel sound has a similar meaning but a more feminine and Shakti quality. It relates to fierce forms of the Goddess like Kali, Chandi and Chhinnamasta. It has the power to cut off and indicates the sword.

...

Svaha is repeated after mantras at Yajnas (fire sacrifices) while one is offering grains or anything else into the fire. Yet it is also used after mantras that one wants to project more fire energies with, like Kali and Tara mantras.

...

Combinations of these mantras can be used, particularly relative to deities, like the the Kali mantra Krim Hum Hrim to bring energy and light to all the chakras or the Sundari mantra Hrim Srim Klim to bring bliss and contentment.

...

The three have masculine and feminine forms as Brahma/Sarasvati, Vishnu/Lakshmi, and Shiva/Kali. It is the feminine forms that are most connected to speech and mantra. Generally, the Goddess Sarasvati, who relates to knowledge and to creative power, is the main Goddess of speech, communication, poetry and music. But the other two forms of the Goddess also relate to speech in different aspects. Lakshmi is the loving or nurturing form of speech, speech at a devotional level. Kali is the energetic or transformative form of speech, speech at a pranic level. As indicating the power of Shakti overall, Kali reflects higher forms of speech in which the Divine Word awakens within us and withdraws us back into the Absolute, revealing the beauty and bliss beyond time and space.

...

Sundari is a Goddess of love, beauty, delight and Soma. She is the deity of the mystic Moon which is also the energy of the crown chakra. Her grace is most sought after in the higher Yoga practices. She allows the immortal Soma nectar to flow from the thousand-petal lotus above, granting all higher powers of speech and mantra. Generally called Tripura Sundari or the "Beauty of the Three Worlds", she represents the benign aspect of Shiva's consort, whose fierce form is Kali.

...

Durga represents the Great Mother in her protective role. She rides a lion and carries the weapons of the Gods and leads the army of the Gods to destroy all negativity. Worshipping her is one of the best places to begin to honor the Mother. Kali is often regarded as her fiercer manifestation.
According to his book, Kali also connects to the elements of Air and Fire.

You can most likely use this for cleaning if you're feeling experimental, but stay careful. From what I see in Frawleys book it seems that Kali is very similar to the purifying fire of the Kundalini, which has been said in the past to make dirty people go insane after they tried to push their kundalini upwards by force.
That being said you'll probably be fine as long as you include proper safety clauses in your affirmation.

For anybody who is interested in trying this, it seems that her mantra is "Krim Hum Hrim" or "Hrim Srim Krim". There might be a mantra for her name itself as well, but I did not find that anywhere. The "Hum" is done with a dragged-out "u". There is normally a line above the "u" to indicate this, but my phone decided it doesn't want to copy that character. :roll:

Optimally I'd suggest using that seed mantra together with her name itself, but I do not know the mantra form. Maybe someone else does. It would go like this, "Aum Krim Hum Hrim [Kali name] Svaha". Maybe it's Kaliya?

If we're taking Frawleys book as an example, then names ending with "a" get a "ya", so "Indra" becomes "Indraya". Names that end with "i", like "Nirriti" have the "i" replaced with "aye", so Nirriti becomes "Nirrtaye". By this logic, Kali would become "Kalaye". So the mantra would be "Aum Krim Hum Hrim Kalaye Svaha".

Maybe someone who knows Sanskrit well will see this and chime in to give a definitive answer.
As per this information I can posit that this is a mantra for tattwa shuddhi loosely translated as 'Purification of the Elements'. This mantra could be used for inner yogic transformation meaning cleaning and transforming (strengthening) the chakras and the nadis for a higher vibrational level,required for the ascent of the kundalini. It doesn't seem to have any kind of material significance although it's based on an inner deep spiritual change. Like the merbaka but probably on a more hardcore level. More information is required on this, though.
Cleaning and trasformation sound like a mantra that could be used for destroing karma...in the book that i have read (the author is Ferrand) She Is described as the destroyer of Ego wich is probabily a corruption. Thanks to everyone! When i have time i'll try it. The fact that She has been described as a mantra that transform makes me think that i'm right.
 
This is a link that explain a bit more of Kali http://www.goddess.ws/kali.html i really think i'm right and the mantra's can be used to destroy Karma, not only She Is called the destroyer of Ego but even the Goddeses of death, transformation and time.
 
Shael said:
In that case the mantra form would be "Aum Krim Hum Hrim Kalyai Svaha", for anyone who wants to give it a try as a cleaning mantra. :)
Actually as final clarification, it seems that Maxine used "yei" instead, and she kept the "i", in the example of Lakshmiyei. So if we took this one as our reference, the mantra form would be "Kaliyei" (vibrated "KKK-AAA-LLL-EEE-YAYE").
This version sounds the most natural to me personally also.

The completed mantra thereby would be:
Aum Krim Hum Hrim Kaliyei Svaha
With the "Hum" having a stretched out "u" sound.
 

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