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This is a long post on news about isreali flase flag terror and how it is becomming more in the open, they are certainly in deep shit as more of this emerges. Watching them squirm trying to get out of it and finally shout anti semitism at Britain is just icing on the cake.
My note in this... one of the below articles has pictures of the suspects in the forged passport photos. While isreal tries to deny involvement in the crime all the faces in those passports to me look jewish. UAE is reported as stating they are looking out for isrealis entering the country.
Mossad 'factory' churned out fake Australian passports
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-26/m ... ian/343612
A former Mossad officer has alleged the Israeli spy agency has its own "passport factory" to create or doctor passports for use in intelligence operations.
Relations between Australia and Israel are under strain after three Australian passports were apparently used by suspects in the killing of top Hamas leader Mahmoud Al Mabhouh in Dubai last month.
Dubai police say they are 99 per cent sure Mossad was behind the operation to smother Mabhouh with a pillow in his hotel room.
Victor Ostrovsky, a case officer at Mossad for several years in the 1980s, says he has no doubt Australian passports have been forged or fraudulently used for similar operations in the past.
"They need passports because you can't go around with an Israeli passport, not even a forged one, and get away or get involved with people from the Arab world," he said.
"They'll shy away right away. So most of these [Mossad] operations are carried out on what's called false flag, which means you pretend to be of another country which is less belligerent to those countries that you're trying to recruit from.
"If they can obtain blank passports, which they have in the past from Canada, from England, they do. If not, they just manufacture them."
He says a company within Mossad headquarters is dedicated to forging passports.
"They create various types of papers, every kind of ink. It's a very, very expensive research department," he said.
He says the manufactured passports are almost identical to the originals.
"If they create a passport at a top level for use of that nature ... I don't think anybody will be able to find the difference," he said.
Mr Ostrovsky says fraudulent Australian passports have been used regularly.
"Consider the fact that Australians speak English and it's an easy cover to take, very few people know very much about Australia," he said.
"You can tell whatever stories you want. It doesn't take much of an accent to be an Australian or New Zealander, or an Englishman for that matter. And I know people had been under Australian cover not once [but] quite a few times. So why not use it?"
He says Mossad chooses which passports to forge based on the cover agents need and the operation they are involved in.
"At the time there were people that were asked ... 'If when you're here in Israel we may need for security purposes to use your passport, would you allow us to do that?'" he said.
"And people would say 'yes'. There were shelves upon shelves of real passports just waiting to be used."
Mr Ostrovsky says there is no chance any of the 26 suspects could really be Mossad agents.
"No, absolutely not," he said.
"Except for James Bond, who actually pronounces or announces his arrival at the scene by saying, 'I'm Bond, James Bond'.
"Most people who work in the intelligence field don't present themselves by their real name."
Israel has long rejected Mr Ostrovsky's claims and tried to stop his book from being published.
This morning Israeli foreign ministry spokesman Yigal Palmour told ABC NewsRadio there was no proof of any link between Israel and Mabhouh's death.
"No evidence was presented by the Dubai police that links Israel to the incident in Dubai," he said.
"Since there is no evidence of that nature and since the Dubai police have so far not presented any ultimate evidence, we don't think that we should respond to anything."
http://www.smh.com.au/national/israeli- ... -p8om.html
Australia summoned the Israeli ambassador and warned that the countries' friendly ties were at risk after Dubai police named three Australian passport-holders in a list of new suspects in the murder of Mahmud al-Mabhuh.
Britain, Ireland, France and Germany expressed similar outrage after people holding documents from their countries were also linked to the January 20 killing in a luxury Dubai hotel.
Israel has previously dismissed claims from Ostrovsky, who is now an author and has detailed various accusations against the country in his books.
The Australian newspaper said Ali Kazak, a former Palestinian representative to Australia, had warned in 2004 that a Mossad agent in Sydney had obtained 25 false Australian passports.
In March 2004, two suspected Mossad agents were arrested in New Zealand and later convicted for fraudulently trying to obtain passports from the country, prompting diplomatic sanctions.
Some quotes from this page, it is very long reading
Dubai police chief said "I am now completely sure that it was Mossad," and furthermore went on to say "I have presented the (Dubai) prosecutor with a request for the arrest of (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu and the head of Mossad," for the murder of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh.[
On 11 October 2010, The National of Abu Dhabi published an interview with Dubai's police chief Lt. Gen. Dahi Khalfan Tamim, in which he claims that a western country had arrested a top suspect of killing al-Mabhouh about two months ago. The ambassador of the western country does not want to name the country and the name of the arrested suspect. Tamim expressed frustration at the lack of detail: "Why is it that every time an Israeli is involved in a crime, everyone goes mute? We want anyone who is dealing with this case to deal with it as a security case, and not to pay attention to any other consideration."[132][133][134]
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United Arab Emirates Sheik Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Foreign Minister of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) said, "The abuse of passports poses a global threat, affecting both countries' national security as well as the personal security of travelers."[135] He also said that those responsible would be brought to account, noting that, "The UAE firmly believes that relations among nations should be conducted on the basis of respect for sovereignty, mutual trust and within the framework of international norms. Like all civilised nations, we abide by these principles and we will deal with this criminal act within the international framework expected of civilised nations."[136] Anwar Gargash, Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, expressed the country's deep concern that expertly doctored passports from nations that do not require advance visas were used by the suspected killers. UAE officials said they remained in "close contact with the concerned European governments," listing the United Kingdom, Ireland, France, Germany and Austria.[135] Lieutenant General Gen Dahi Khalfan Tamim said on March 1, 2010, during the International Security National Resilience Exhibition & Conference at Abu Dhabi National Exhibition Centre, that the police of the UAE will develop the skills to identify persons who are Israelis. So the police will deny the entry of any person as a suspected Israeli.[137] Tamim indicated he was satisfied with his investigation, saying: "We have better experience and expertise than the Mossad."[138]
United Kingdom Britain's Foreign Office believes that the passports used were fraudulent;[74] one report indicated that they had issued the passports in January, 2010, the only difference between the actual identities being the photographs.[139] The Telegraph reported on 20 February that diplomatic sources say that the passport fraud was carried out by Israeli immigration officials. It is claimed that the dual Israeli-British citizens had their passports taken from them as they passed through the airport in Tel Aviv the details on the documents were recorded (and they were most likely photocopied), and then used to create new documents. These new documents sported the pictures of the suspects, but used the names and numbers of those whose identities were stolen.[140] As a result of an investigation by the British Serious Organized Crime Agency, the government concluded that there were "compelling evidence to believe that Israel was responsible for the misuse of the British passports."[141] The British Foreign Secretary David Miliband expelled a senior Israeli diplomat, who was thought to be the Mossad's station commander in the country.[142][143][144][145][146] Britain also issued a warning to UK passport holders traveling to Israel to "only hand your passport over to third parties including Israeli officials when absolutely necessary".[147] Israel had already used fake British passports to conduct an operation in 1987.[148]
France François Fillon, the French Prime Minister, said that though it remained unclear as to who was responsible, "France condemns assassination. Assassination is not a means of action in international relations."[149] The Israeli chargé d'affaires in Paris was summoned on 18 February and the French Foreign Ministry issued a statement expressing, "deep concern about the malicious and fraudulent use of these French administrative documents."[73]
Austria The spokesman for the Austrian Interior Ministry confirmed that Austria is investigating the use of Austrian mobile phones by the suspected killers.
Germany Germany confirmed that it is actively pursuing information on the identity of the killers of al-Mabhouh.[150] The German federal prosecutor's office in Karlsruhe began investigations about foreign spy activities in connection with the German passport used by one suspect in Dubai.[151] The German Bundesnachrichtendienst (German intelligence service) told members of the German parliament that apparently the Mossad executed the operation in Dubai. According to Der Spiegel, the Mossad operation could be considered as an affront to the Germans since the current head of German intelligence, Ernst Uhrlau has been acting at the behest of the Israeli government as a liaison between Jerusalem and Hamas. He sought the release of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, who was abducted by Palestinian militants in 2006 in exchange for Palestinian prisoners held by the Israelis. Urhrlau was in Israel just a few days before 19 January. By then the Dubai operation was certainly under way.[152]
Ireland The Irish Department of Foreign Affairs stated that "Irish passports used by three people believed to have been involved in killing a Hamas member had genuine numbers" but that "the people identified in the passports recorded in Dubai were not those in the genuine passports." The department had previously reported that the passport numbers were counterfeit and has since been given "additional material relating to the passport numbers". The Department of Foreign Affairs said it was trying to contact the three Irish citizens who hold or have held passports containing these numbers.[153] Ireland ordered the removal of an Israeli diplomat as a protest over the use of forged passports.[154]
Iran On 2 February, the Iranian foreign ministry blamed Israel for the incident, stating, "This is another indication of the existence of state terrorism by the Zionist regime".[155]
Australia On 25 February, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, said that any country that so abused Australian passports held Australia in contempt, stating, "we will not let the matter lie."[63] In a meeting with Israeli Ambassador Yuval Rotem, Foreign Affairs Minister, Stephen Smith, made it "crystal clear" that if it was concluded that Israeli officials had condoned or sponsored the abuse of the Australian passports, "Australia would not regard that as the act of a friend".[156] Soon after this occurred, Australia, who is usually a strong supporter of Israel at the United Nations[citation needed], abstained on a UN motion to investigate Israeli war crimes committed during the Gaza War, a motion that Australia had previously opposed. In the Australian press there was widespread speculation that the move was retaliation for the passport affair, although this was denied by the Australian government.[157] In response the the incident, Australia expelled a Mossad agent who had been working in the Israeli embassy in Canberra on 24 May 2010.[158] Foreign Minister Stephen Smith was quoted as saying that Australian passports had been misused by Israel on previous occasions, and the decision to expel the Mossad agent "was made much more in sorrow than in anger".[159][158]
Lebanon Key Hezbollah members became nervous after the killing in Dubai. Since foreign passports were seemingly used for the attack, Hezbollah asked the Lebanese government for additional screening of foreigners entering Lebanon.[160]
Sweden Foreign Minister Carl Bildt stated that "misuse of European passports is not to be tolerated".[161]
Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn stated that "political assassinations have no place in the 21st century".[161]
Spain Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos stated that his country was "extremely concerned".[161]
Israel The Israeli government initially did not comment on claims that it was involved in al-Mabhouh's death.[155] On 17 February, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman refused to confirm or deny any Israeli involvement, and noted a lack of solid evidence for Israeli involvement.[162] On 24 February the Jerusalem Post quoted the Israeli Opposition leader Tzipi Livni as saying, "Every terrorist must know that no one will support him when a soldier, and it doesn't matter what soldier, tries to kill him." [163] Israeli media and public opinion has generally accepted Mossad's responsibility for the operation.[164] Due to Israel's military censorship laws the Israeli media at first were careful to use the phrase "according to foreign media reports" to avoid directly accusing Mossad, however the phrase was abandoned and Mossad's culpability was openly assumed after the first week of the scandal.[165] Opinions of the Israeli media were divided between approving of the success of al-Mabhouh's killing and disapproving the sloppiness of the operation and the resultant exposure and media scandal. Haaretz's Amir Oren called Dagan to be fired due to what he considered a sloppy job,[166] while the newspaper's Yossi Melman predicted Israel would emerge from the incident "unblemished".[167] After the United Kingdom expelled an Israeli diplomat over the use of British passports, Israeli right wing politicians commented against Britain's "disloyal" action. Knesset member Michael Ben-Ari stated that "This is anti-Semitism disguised as anti-Zionism". Israeli politician Aryeh Eldad stated that "Britain's behavior is hypocritical. Who are they to judge us in the war on terror?". Other than non-official comments made by right wing politicians, Israel has not officially responded.[168]
United States - On 28 December 2010, secret cables leaked by Wikileaks showed that Dubai considered keeping the assassination secret, and asked the United States to help track down information on credit card numbers suspected of having been used by the assassins.[169][170] The United States did not cooperate with the investigation.[171]
isreal is on it's way down!!!
Hail Satan
My note in this... one of the below articles has pictures of the suspects in the forged passport photos. While isreal tries to deny involvement in the crime all the faces in those passports to me look jewish. UAE is reported as stating they are looking out for isrealis entering the country.
Mossad 'factory' churned out fake Australian passports
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-26/m ... ian/343612
A former Mossad officer has alleged the Israeli spy agency has its own "passport factory" to create or doctor passports for use in intelligence operations.
Relations between Australia and Israel are under strain after three Australian passports were apparently used by suspects in the killing of top Hamas leader Mahmoud Al Mabhouh in Dubai last month.
Dubai police say they are 99 per cent sure Mossad was behind the operation to smother Mabhouh with a pillow in his hotel room.
Victor Ostrovsky, a case officer at Mossad for several years in the 1980s, says he has no doubt Australian passports have been forged or fraudulently used for similar operations in the past.
"They need passports because you can't go around with an Israeli passport, not even a forged one, and get away or get involved with people from the Arab world," he said.
"They'll shy away right away. So most of these [Mossad] operations are carried out on what's called false flag, which means you pretend to be of another country which is less belligerent to those countries that you're trying to recruit from.
"If they can obtain blank passports, which they have in the past from Canada, from England, they do. If not, they just manufacture them."
He says a company within Mossad headquarters is dedicated to forging passports.
"They create various types of papers, every kind of ink. It's a very, very expensive research department," he said.
He says the manufactured passports are almost identical to the originals.
"If they create a passport at a top level for use of that nature ... I don't think anybody will be able to find the difference," he said.
Mr Ostrovsky says fraudulent Australian passports have been used regularly.
"Consider the fact that Australians speak English and it's an easy cover to take, very few people know very much about Australia," he said.
"You can tell whatever stories you want. It doesn't take much of an accent to be an Australian or New Zealander, or an Englishman for that matter. And I know people had been under Australian cover not once [but] quite a few times. So why not use it?"
He says Mossad chooses which passports to forge based on the cover agents need and the operation they are involved in.
"At the time there were people that were asked ... 'If when you're here in Israel we may need for security purposes to use your passport, would you allow us to do that?'" he said.
"And people would say 'yes'. There were shelves upon shelves of real passports just waiting to be used."
Mr Ostrovsky says there is no chance any of the 26 suspects could really be Mossad agents.
"No, absolutely not," he said.
"Except for James Bond, who actually pronounces or announces his arrival at the scene by saying, 'I'm Bond, James Bond'.
"Most people who work in the intelligence field don't present themselves by their real name."
Israel has long rejected Mr Ostrovsky's claims and tried to stop his book from being published.
This morning Israeli foreign ministry spokesman Yigal Palmour told ABC NewsRadio there was no proof of any link between Israel and Mabhouh's death.
"No evidence was presented by the Dubai police that links Israel to the incident in Dubai," he said.
"Since there is no evidence of that nature and since the Dubai police have so far not presented any ultimate evidence, we don't think that we should respond to anything."
http://www.smh.com.au/national/israeli- ... -p8om.html
Australia summoned the Israeli ambassador and warned that the countries' friendly ties were at risk after Dubai police named three Australian passport-holders in a list of new suspects in the murder of Mahmud al-Mabhuh.
Britain, Ireland, France and Germany expressed similar outrage after people holding documents from their countries were also linked to the January 20 killing in a luxury Dubai hotel.
Israel has previously dismissed claims from Ostrovsky, who is now an author and has detailed various accusations against the country in his books.
The Australian newspaper said Ali Kazak, a former Palestinian representative to Australia, had warned in 2004 that a Mossad agent in Sydney had obtained 25 false Australian passports.
In March 2004, two suspected Mossad agents were arrested in New Zealand and later convicted for fraudulently trying to obtain passports from the country, prompting diplomatic sanctions.
Some quotes from this page, it is very long reading
Dubai police chief said "I am now completely sure that it was Mossad," and furthermore went on to say "I have presented the (Dubai) prosecutor with a request for the arrest of (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu and the head of Mossad," for the murder of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh.[
On 11 October 2010, The National of Abu Dhabi published an interview with Dubai's police chief Lt. Gen. Dahi Khalfan Tamim, in which he claims that a western country had arrested a top suspect of killing al-Mabhouh about two months ago. The ambassador of the western country does not want to name the country and the name of the arrested suspect. Tamim expressed frustration at the lack of detail: "Why is it that every time an Israeli is involved in a crime, everyone goes mute? We want anyone who is dealing with this case to deal with it as a security case, and not to pay attention to any other consideration."[132][133][134]
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United Arab Emirates Sheik Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Foreign Minister of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) said, "The abuse of passports poses a global threat, affecting both countries' national security as well as the personal security of travelers."[135] He also said that those responsible would be brought to account, noting that, "The UAE firmly believes that relations among nations should be conducted on the basis of respect for sovereignty, mutual trust and within the framework of international norms. Like all civilised nations, we abide by these principles and we will deal with this criminal act within the international framework expected of civilised nations."[136] Anwar Gargash, Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, expressed the country's deep concern that expertly doctored passports from nations that do not require advance visas were used by the suspected killers. UAE officials said they remained in "close contact with the concerned European governments," listing the United Kingdom, Ireland, France, Germany and Austria.[135] Lieutenant General Gen Dahi Khalfan Tamim said on March 1, 2010, during the International Security National Resilience Exhibition & Conference at Abu Dhabi National Exhibition Centre, that the police of the UAE will develop the skills to identify persons who are Israelis. So the police will deny the entry of any person as a suspected Israeli.[137] Tamim indicated he was satisfied with his investigation, saying: "We have better experience and expertise than the Mossad."[138]
United Kingdom Britain's Foreign Office believes that the passports used were fraudulent;[74] one report indicated that they had issued the passports in January, 2010, the only difference between the actual identities being the photographs.[139] The Telegraph reported on 20 February that diplomatic sources say that the passport fraud was carried out by Israeli immigration officials. It is claimed that the dual Israeli-British citizens had their passports taken from them as they passed through the airport in Tel Aviv the details on the documents were recorded (and they were most likely photocopied), and then used to create new documents. These new documents sported the pictures of the suspects, but used the names and numbers of those whose identities were stolen.[140] As a result of an investigation by the British Serious Organized Crime Agency, the government concluded that there were "compelling evidence to believe that Israel was responsible for the misuse of the British passports."[141] The British Foreign Secretary David Miliband expelled a senior Israeli diplomat, who was thought to be the Mossad's station commander in the country.[142][143][144][145][146] Britain also issued a warning to UK passport holders traveling to Israel to "only hand your passport over to third parties including Israeli officials when absolutely necessary".[147] Israel had already used fake British passports to conduct an operation in 1987.[148]
France François Fillon, the French Prime Minister, said that though it remained unclear as to who was responsible, "France condemns assassination. Assassination is not a means of action in international relations."[149] The Israeli chargé d'affaires in Paris was summoned on 18 February and the French Foreign Ministry issued a statement expressing, "deep concern about the malicious and fraudulent use of these French administrative documents."[73]
Austria The spokesman for the Austrian Interior Ministry confirmed that Austria is investigating the use of Austrian mobile phones by the suspected killers.
Germany Germany confirmed that it is actively pursuing information on the identity of the killers of al-Mabhouh.[150] The German federal prosecutor's office in Karlsruhe began investigations about foreign spy activities in connection with the German passport used by one suspect in Dubai.[151] The German Bundesnachrichtendienst (German intelligence service) told members of the German parliament that apparently the Mossad executed the operation in Dubai. According to Der Spiegel, the Mossad operation could be considered as an affront to the Germans since the current head of German intelligence, Ernst Uhrlau has been acting at the behest of the Israeli government as a liaison between Jerusalem and Hamas. He sought the release of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, who was abducted by Palestinian militants in 2006 in exchange for Palestinian prisoners held by the Israelis. Urhrlau was in Israel just a few days before 19 January. By then the Dubai operation was certainly under way.[152]
Ireland The Irish Department of Foreign Affairs stated that "Irish passports used by three people believed to have been involved in killing a Hamas member had genuine numbers" but that "the people identified in the passports recorded in Dubai were not those in the genuine passports." The department had previously reported that the passport numbers were counterfeit and has since been given "additional material relating to the passport numbers". The Department of Foreign Affairs said it was trying to contact the three Irish citizens who hold or have held passports containing these numbers.[153] Ireland ordered the removal of an Israeli diplomat as a protest over the use of forged passports.[154]
Iran On 2 February, the Iranian foreign ministry blamed Israel for the incident, stating, "This is another indication of the existence of state terrorism by the Zionist regime".[155]
Australia On 25 February, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, said that any country that so abused Australian passports held Australia in contempt, stating, "we will not let the matter lie."[63] In a meeting with Israeli Ambassador Yuval Rotem, Foreign Affairs Minister, Stephen Smith, made it "crystal clear" that if it was concluded that Israeli officials had condoned or sponsored the abuse of the Australian passports, "Australia would not regard that as the act of a friend".[156] Soon after this occurred, Australia, who is usually a strong supporter of Israel at the United Nations[citation needed], abstained on a UN motion to investigate Israeli war crimes committed during the Gaza War, a motion that Australia had previously opposed. In the Australian press there was widespread speculation that the move was retaliation for the passport affair, although this was denied by the Australian government.[157] In response the the incident, Australia expelled a Mossad agent who had been working in the Israeli embassy in Canberra on 24 May 2010.[158] Foreign Minister Stephen Smith was quoted as saying that Australian passports had been misused by Israel on previous occasions, and the decision to expel the Mossad agent "was made much more in sorrow than in anger".[159][158]
Lebanon Key Hezbollah members became nervous after the killing in Dubai. Since foreign passports were seemingly used for the attack, Hezbollah asked the Lebanese government for additional screening of foreigners entering Lebanon.[160]
Sweden Foreign Minister Carl Bildt stated that "misuse of European passports is not to be tolerated".[161]
Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn stated that "political assassinations have no place in the 21st century".[161]
Spain Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos stated that his country was "extremely concerned".[161]
Israel The Israeli government initially did not comment on claims that it was involved in al-Mabhouh's death.[155] On 17 February, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman refused to confirm or deny any Israeli involvement, and noted a lack of solid evidence for Israeli involvement.[162] On 24 February the Jerusalem Post quoted the Israeli Opposition leader Tzipi Livni as saying, "Every terrorist must know that no one will support him when a soldier, and it doesn't matter what soldier, tries to kill him." [163] Israeli media and public opinion has generally accepted Mossad's responsibility for the operation.[164] Due to Israel's military censorship laws the Israeli media at first were careful to use the phrase "according to foreign media reports" to avoid directly accusing Mossad, however the phrase was abandoned and Mossad's culpability was openly assumed after the first week of the scandal.[165] Opinions of the Israeli media were divided between approving of the success of al-Mabhouh's killing and disapproving the sloppiness of the operation and the resultant exposure and media scandal. Haaretz's Amir Oren called Dagan to be fired due to what he considered a sloppy job,[166] while the newspaper's Yossi Melman predicted Israel would emerge from the incident "unblemished".[167] After the United Kingdom expelled an Israeli diplomat over the use of British passports, Israeli right wing politicians commented against Britain's "disloyal" action. Knesset member Michael Ben-Ari stated that "This is anti-Semitism disguised as anti-Zionism". Israeli politician Aryeh Eldad stated that "Britain's behavior is hypocritical. Who are they to judge us in the war on terror?". Other than non-official comments made by right wing politicians, Israel has not officially responded.[168]
United States - On 28 December 2010, secret cables leaked by Wikileaks showed that Dubai considered keeping the assassination secret, and asked the United States to help track down information on credit card numbers suspected of having been used by the assassins.[169][170] The United States did not cooperate with the investigation.[171]
isreal is on it's way down!!!
Hail Satan
What you said, about the greys that is what I see in the eyes of the jews. For anyone who has actually looked a grey in the face into the eyes the grey for me was stronger the effect through the eyes but the energy is the same. The kike eye, the greys eyes. The anger has built up and up in me this past year more and more the more I learn and see and past memories comming back. I lived most of my life in fear of the greys until now. Now I know why they tried so much to stop and hurt me because they have backed off I don't have any fear of them anymore just anger and hatred. 
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