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Psychxdeliclove666

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(I know this is going to cause a flamewar, so please don't feed the fires of it. Civil debate and honest intentions get us to the truth; screeching and yelling do not.)

I was wondering your guys' opinions on immigration, not to be confused with race-mixing directly. That shouldn't be let, as is simple.

Let me clear myself up: I don't mean mudslimes flooding into Europe today, I mean like if a Satanist from one nation with its' ethnicity could go to another nation of different ethnicity. I know that a Satanist Germany should and can never accept these rapists we call "Syrian refugees", 90% of which aren't even from Syria, but would a Satanist Germany also deny a Yezidi from the same area, or another immigrant from another Satanist nation in the future if they do not happen to be White?

Keeping in mind all moral principles regarding this case,

Let me know your guys thoughts :)
 
Immigration is good only if people go into countries of their same race. No exceptions.
 
TopoftheAbyss said:
Immigration is good only if people go into countries of their same race. No exceptions.

for this case you are correct Many turks immigrants living in germany and until now there is no harmony between these two races.

But how do you explain this ,many polish immigrants in Britain and they are totally different race :? :?
 
Psychxdeliclove666 said:
I was wondering your guys' opinions on immigration, not to be confused with race-mixing directly. That shouldn't be let, as is simple.
My opinion is that immigration should only be applied where is neccesary for a government to cover jobs where they don't find suitable local citizens for. If a country is in shortage of microbiologists (just an example) and it cannot find any within it's own territory, I see the point of bringing one from another country, that's also a form of immigration. I don't see the point of over-populating certain cities of a 1st world nation with all kind of people from poorer countries, but this also mean that nations should clean the dirt made by their politicians, which is more difficult to realize than just taking your stuff and leaving your country. Also it requires racial laws to stop the extinction of White race.
 
from my point of view, if you live in a muslim country and you're not safe, I'd advice you to move somewhere else if you can. As long as you don't rece mix (love,or sexual relationship) which you should know if you're an ss, you should be fine. when it's the right time all races we'll live and advance on their own.we are all Satan's people expect for jews. Lots of people are brainwashed by Islam and Christianity it's on us to awaken them to the truth. I wish you a good luck in your life and don't forget to clean your aura and do aura of protection daily
 
TopoftheAbyss said:
Immigration is good only if people go into countries of their same race. No exceptions.

That's an interesting take on the matter! I'm sure that many people here have your opinion, some maybe even going less or more on that take (i.e "Maybe some immigration is fine", "Oh no, we have to protect our type within the race", etc.)

What, in your opinion, do you think is the best defense for your opinion over those who may be a bit more extreme/lax on the matter?

I'm interested, since even here, many opinions can exist, but as Satanists, it is our task to debate and work as the laws of science and morality demand to learn and expand our understanding of the world, in all aspects :D :D :D :D
 
Psychxdeliclove666 said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
Immigration is good only if people go into countries of their same race. No exceptions.

That's an interesting take on the matter! I'm sure that many people here have your opinion, some maybe even going less or more on that take (i.e "Maybe some immigration is fine", "Oh no, we have to protect our type within the race", etc.)

What, in your opinion, do you think is the best defense for your opinion over those who may be a bit more extreme/lax on the matter?

I'm interested, since even here, many opinions can exist, but as Satanists, it is our task to debate and work as the laws of science and morality demand to learn and expand our understanding of the world, in all aspects :D :D :D :D
The White race has lost too much thanks to immigration and even if the Jews are no more non Whites would still slow our development.
There are also reasons for aesthetic and beauty, I don't want to see non Whites in White countries.
 
I don’t know about other nations but in the United States ALL immigration needs to be shut down and borders remain totally closed until we get it under control and deport those that don’t belong and figure out a new system that is beneficial to the nation and it’s citizens.
 
TopoftheAbyss said:
Psychxdeliclove666 said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
Immigration is good only if people go into countries of their same race. No exceptions.

That's an interesting take on the matter! I'm sure that many people here have your opinion, some maybe even going less or more on that take (i.e "Maybe some immigration is fine", "Oh no, we have to protect our type within the race", etc.)

What, in your opinion, do you think is the best defense for your opinion over those who may be a bit more extreme/lax on the matter?

I'm interested, since even here, many opinions can exist, but as Satanists, it is our task to debate and work as the laws of science and morality demand to learn and expand our understanding of the world, in all aspects :D :D :D :D
The White race has lost too much thanks to immigration and even if the Jews are no more non Whites would still slow our development.
There are also reasons for aesthetic and beauty, I don't want to see non Whites in White countries.
I see. Interesting arguments you make there.

I've seen so far on this thread many sides, some people advocating for even tighter restrictions (such as with the Polish in the UK), and lesser so.

I'll add my questions on this, because it's important we all discuss and learn what is good.

1) What have We lost from immigration? How would Non-Whites slow us down?

2) Don't you think that some persons of other ethnicities are beautiful? There's a reason that models are from all ethncities, and have similar standards.
 
sonnenkraft said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
Immigration is good only if people go into countries of their same race. No exceptions.

for this case you are correct Many turks immigrants living in germany and until now there is no harmony between these two races.

But how do you explain this ,many polish immigrants in Britain and they are totally different race :? :?

I see. A similar stance to TopoftheAbyss. Interesting. I want to ask something:

1) Explain your disdain for Polish immigrants in Britain?

2) Do you think that some of that disharmony in Germany is a result of the shitty beliefs that the Turks carry with them?
 
Psychxdeliclove666 said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
Psychxdeliclove666 said:
That's an interesting take on the matter! I'm sure that many people here have your opinion, some maybe even going less or more on that take (i.e "Maybe some immigration is fine", "Oh no, we have to protect our type within the race", etc.)

What, in your opinion, do you think is the best defense for your opinion over those who may be a bit more extreme/lax on the matter?

I'm interested, since even here, many opinions can exist, but as Satanists, it is our task to debate and work as the laws of science and morality demand to learn and expand our understanding of the world, in all aspects :D :D :D :D
The White race has lost too much thanks to immigration and even if the Jews are no more non Whites would still slow our development.
There are also reasons for aesthetic and beauty, I don't want to see non Whites in White countries.
I see. Interesting arguments you make there.

I've seen so far on this thread many sides, some people advocating for even tighter restrictions (such as with the Polish in the UK), and lesser so.

I'll add my questions on this, because it's important we all discuss and learn what is good.

1) What have We lost from immigration? How would Non-Whites slow us down?

2) Don't you think that some persons of other ethnicities are beautiful? There's a reason that models are from all ethncities, and have similar standards.

1) White genocide is a thing, a lot of non whites commit too many crimes and add nothing.
2) they're beautiful for their standards, not ours.

White countries will be closed to non Whites.
 
sonnenkraft said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
Immigration is good only if people go into countries of their same race. No exceptions.

for this case you are correct Many turks immigrants living in germany and until now there is no harmony between these two races.

But how do you explain this ,many polish immigrants in Britain and they are totally different race :? :?

Polish immigrants integrate into the British culture fine, the younger generations who grow up speak with the accent and they and their parents in most cases respect the British customs. That is an absolute myth + on a racial level most of Poland is Nordic white with a noted percentage of slavic from the Russian occupations.

The Polish in Britain actually reinforce values of traditionalism and are quite racialist in how they view things, which is a positive for the country today as it is being swept away by the confusion of the multicultural mass media crap promulgated from California.
 
sonnenkraft said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
Immigration is good only if people go into countries of their same race. No exceptions.

for this case you are correct Many turks immigrants living in germany and until now there is no harmony between these two races.

But how do you explain this ,many polish immigrants in Britain and they are totally different race :? :?

Unsurprisingly here I am as a Polak to respond. And this is coming from me as someone who doesn't really want Poles in Britain and elsewhere; if anything I have a certain level of disdain for those immigrants that I'm trying to work through.

That being said, Poles are not a totally different race from British folk or White people at large. Slavs do form their own unique genetic subgroup within Whites, this is true; this can be seen in that Slavic features can be noticed and identified, even within Slavs themselves. I can oft tell the difference between a Russian and a Pole. But even so, they are still of the White race and are very genetically close to the rest of the White subgroups. This is especially true of Western Slavs, Czechs and Poles in particular, whose closer proximity and historical ties to Germany have enabled for many centuries of intermingling. Many Poles can find some Germanic ancestry down their familial line, myself included.
 
TopoftheAbyss said:
Psychxdeliclove666 said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
The White race has lost too much thanks to immigration and even if the Jews are no more non Whites would still slow our development.
There are also reasons for aesthetic and beauty, I don't want to see non Whites in White countries.
I see. Interesting arguments you make there.

I've seen so far on this thread many sides, some people advocating for even tighter restrictions (such as with the Polish in the UK), and lesser so.

I'll add my questions on this, because it's important we all discuss and learn what is good.

1) What have We lost from immigration? How would Non-Whites slow us down?

2) Don't you think that some persons of other ethnicities are beautiful? There's a reason that models are from all ethncities, and have similar standards.

1) White genocide is a thing, a lot of non whites commit too many crimes and add nothing.
2) they're beautiful for their standards, not ours.

White countries will be closed to non Whites.


Hmm, it's on a large whole your basing this with the foreigners that do crime. Because if I'm correct, Nazi Germany had immgrants or foreigners that lived, of course a few percent compared to the White Race. But yes they did have something to offer. It's like in any society that follows standards to benefit. Be useful to society, and oneself. But crime doesn't just resonate with just other races, it accumlates wherever there is injustice, so it's not partial to just those crimes in Europe. However before this continues, I do see it that yes the races need to be separated to gain some momentum that will benefit themselves as a race before even thinking about relations of friendships.
 
13th_Wolf said:
sonnenkraft said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
Immigration is good only if people go into countries of their same race. No exceptions.

for this case you are correct Many turks immigrants living in germany and until now there is no harmony between these two races.

But how do you explain this ,many polish immigrants in Britain and they are totally different race :? :?

Polish immigrants integrate into the British culture fine, the younger generations who grow up speak with the accent and they and their parents in most cases respect the British customs. That is an absolute myth + on a racial level most of Poland is Nordic white with a noted percentage of slavic from the Russian occupations.

The Polish in Britain actually reinforce values of traditionalism and are quite racialist in how they view things, which is a positive for the country today as it is being swept away by the confusion of the multicultural mass media crap promulgated from California.

immigration to a relatives country related to each other in somehow is okay it seems and good ,
but not race mixing
 
TopoftheAbyss said:
Psychxdeliclove666 said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
The White race has lost too much thanks to immigration and even if the Jews are no more non Whites would still slow our development.
There are also reasons for aesthetic and beauty, I don't want to see non Whites in White countries.
I see. Interesting arguments you make there.

I've seen so far on this thread many sides, some people advocating for even tighter restrictions (such as with the Polish in the UK), and lesser so.

I'll add my questions on this, because it's important we all discuss and learn what is good.

1) What have We lost from immigration? How would Non-Whites slow us down?

2) Don't you think that some persons of other ethnicities are beautiful? There's a reason that models are from all ethncities, and have similar standards.

1) White genocide is a thing, a lot of non whites commit too many crimes and add nothing.
2) they're beautiful for their standards, not ours.

White countries will be closed to non Whites.

Interesting. I see.

I'd like to add something, if I can.

1) I mean, crime is a thing, but that's why you have Law Enforcement. Humans can commit any crime for example they can think of, but it wouldn't make sense to wipe them out for it. That'd be immoral, even if your crime rate drops to exactly 0%.

2) I mean, a strong healthy man for example of any race could be a model. But taking someone with just a race, even if they're ugly, can't make them a model.

Powstanie Pogańskie said:
sonnenkraft said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
Immigration is good only if people go into countries of their same race. No exceptions.

for this case you are correct Many turks immigrants living in germany and until now there is no harmony between these two races.

But how do you explain this ,many polish immigrants in Britain and they are totally different race :? :?

Unsurprisingly here I am as a Polak to respond. And this is coming from me as someone who doesn't really want Poles in Britain and elsewhere; if anything I have a certain level of disdain for those immigrants that I'm trying to work through.

That being said, Poles are not a totally different race from British folk or White people at large. Slavs do form their own unique genetic subgroup within Whites, this is true; this can be seen in that Slavic features can be noticed and identified, even within Slavs themselves. I can oft tell the difference between a Russian and a Pole. But even so, they are still of the White race and are very genetically close to the rest of the White subgroups. This is especially true of Western Slavs, Czechs and Poles in particular, whose closer proximity and historical ties to Germany have enabled for many centuries of intermingling. Many Poles can find some Germanic ancestry down their familial line, myself included.
There's differences in races, and differences in them, forever more. I think we need to learn to respect that, and see things like moral action instead. If I'm not mistaken, I think this person was criticizing Polish Immigrants for stereotypes such as them doing crime, not working hard, etc., but I think we then need to a moral character in everyone, not just in recent arrivals. A Polish man who works hard and contributes is more worthy of living in Britain than the British person who commits crime or does evil, we need to see past "they're different" as a critical thought, and start asking laterally "so what? Why does this/not matter?"

sonnenkraft said:
13th_Wolf said:
sonnenkraft said:
for this case you are correct Many turks immigrants living in germany and until now there is no harmony between these two races.

But how do you explain this ,many polish immigrants in Britain and they are totally different race :? :?

Polish immigrants integrate into the British culture fine, the younger generations who grow up speak with the accent and they and their parents in most cases respect the British customs. That is an absolute myth + on a racial level most of Poland is Nordic white with a noted percentage of slavic from the Russian occupations.

The Polish in Britain actually reinforce values of traditionalism and are quite racialist in how they view things, which is a positive for the country today as it is being swept away by the confusion of the multicultural mass media crap promulgated from California.

immigration to a relatives country related to each other in somehow is okay it seems and good ,
but not race mixing
True. But, what do you define as "related to each other"? Would that be by majority race, or as some people suggested, deeper divisions like "Germanic", "Slavic", etc.?
 
Psychxdeliclove666 said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
Psychxdeliclove666 said:
I see. Interesting arguments you make there.

I've seen so far on this thread many sides, some people advocating for even tighter restrictions (such as with the Polish in the UK), and lesser so.

I'll add my questions on this, because it's important we all discuss and learn what is good.

1) What have We lost from immigration? How would Non-Whites slow us down?

2) Don't you think that some persons of other ethnicities are beautiful? There's a reason that models are from all ethncities, and have similar standards.

1) White genocide is a thing, a lot of non whites commit too many crimes and add nothing.
2) they're beautiful for their standards, not ours.

White countries will be closed to non Whites.

Interesting. I see.

I'd like to add something, if I can.

1) I mean, crime is a thing, but that's why you have Law Enforcement. Humans can commit any crime for example they can think of, but it wouldn't make sense to wipe them out for it. That'd be immoral, even if your crime rate drops to exactly 0%.

2) I mean, a strong healthy man for example of any race could be a model. But taking someone with just a race, even if they're ugly, can't make them a model.

Powstanie Pogańskie said:
sonnenkraft said:
for this case you are correct Many turks immigrants living in germany and until now there is no harmony between these two races.

But how do you explain this ,many polish immigrants in Britain and they are totally different race :? :?

Unsurprisingly here I am as a Polak to respond. And this is coming from me as someone who doesn't really want Poles in Britain and elsewhere; if anything I have a certain level of disdain for those immigrants that I'm trying to work through.

That being said, Poles are not a totally different race from British folk or White people at large. Slavs do form their own unique genetic subgroup within Whites, this is true; this can be seen in that Slavic features can be noticed and identified, even within Slavs themselves. I can oft tell the difference between a Russian and a Pole. But even so, they are still of the White race and are very genetically close to the rest of the White subgroups. This is especially true of Western Slavs, Czechs and Poles in particular, whose closer proximity and historical ties to Germany have enabled for many centuries of intermingling. Many Poles can find some Germanic ancestry down their familial line, myself included.
There's differences in races, and differences in them, forever more. I think we need to learn to respect that, and see things like moral action instead. If I'm not mistaken, I think this person was criticizing Polish Immigrants for stereotypes such as them doing crime, not working hard, etc., but I think we then need to a moral character in everyone, not just in recent arrivals. A Polish man who works hard and contributes is more worthy of living in Britain than the British person who commits crime or does evil, we need to see past "they're different" as a critical thought, and start asking laterally "so what? Why does this/not matter?"

sonnenkraft said:
13th_Wolf said:
Polish immigrants integrate into the British culture fine, the younger generations who grow up speak with the accent and they and their parents in most cases respect the British customs. That is an absolute myth + on a racial level most of Poland is Nordic white with a noted percentage of slavic from the Russian occupations.

The Polish in Britain actually reinforce values of traditionalism and are quite racialist in how they view things, which is a positive for the country today as it is being swept away by the confusion of the multicultural mass media crap promulgated from California.

immigration to a relatives country related to each other in somehow is okay it seems and good ,
but not race mixing
True. But, what do you define as "related to each other"? Would that be by majority race, or as some people suggested, deeper divisions like "Germanic", "Slavic", etc.?
You're acting as if by sending non Whites out of White countries we hurt them, Schlomo.
 
Psychxdeliclove666 said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
Psychxdeliclove666 said:
I see. Interesting arguments you make there.

I've seen so far on this thread many sides, some people advocating for even tighter restrictions (such as with the Polish in the UK), and lesser so.

I'll add my questions on this, because it's important we all discuss and learn what is good.

1) What have We lost from immigration? How would Non-Whites slow us down?

2) Don't you think that some persons of other ethnicities are beautiful? There's a reason that models are from all ethncities, and have similar standards.

1) White genocide is a thing, a lot of non whites commit too many crimes and add nothing.
2) they're beautiful for their standards, not ours.

White countries will be closed to non Whites.

Interesting. I see.

I'd like to add something, if I can.

1) I mean, crime is a thing, but that's why you have Law Enforcement. Humans can commit any crime for example they can think of, but it wouldn't make sense to wipe them out for it. That'd be immoral, even if your crime rate drops to exactly 0%.

2) I mean, a strong healthy man for example of any race could be a model. But taking someone with just a race, even if they're ugly, can't make them a model.

Powstanie Pogańskie said:
sonnenkraft said:
for this case you are correct Many turks immigrants living in germany and until now there is no harmony between these two races.

But how do you explain this ,many polish immigrants in Britain and they are totally different race :? :?

Unsurprisingly here I am as a Polak to respond. And this is coming from me as someone who doesn't really want Poles in Britain and elsewhere; if anything I have a certain level of disdain for those immigrants that I'm trying to work through.

That being said, Poles are not a totally different race from British folk or White people at large. Slavs do form their own unique genetic subgroup within Whites, this is true; this can be seen in that Slavic features can be noticed and identified, even within Slavs themselves. I can oft tell the difference between a Russian and a Pole. But even so, they are still of the White race and are very genetically close to the rest of the White subgroups. This is especially true of Western Slavs, Czechs and Poles in particular, whose closer proximity and historical ties to Germany have enabled for many centuries of intermingling. Many Poles can find some Germanic ancestry down their familial line, myself included.
There's differences in races, and differences in them, forever more. I think we need to learn to respect that, and see things like moral action instead. If I'm not mistaken, I think this person was criticizing Polish Immigrants for stereotypes such as them doing crime, not working hard, etc., but I think we then need to a moral character in everyone, not just in recent arrivals. A Polish man who works hard and contributes is more worthy of living in Britain than the British person who commits crime or does evil, we need to see past "they're different" as a critical thought, and start asking laterally "so what? Why does this/not matter?"

sonnenkraft said:
13th_Wolf said:
Polish immigrants integrate into the British culture fine, the younger generations who grow up speak with the accent and they and their parents in most cases respect the British customs. That is an absolute myth + on a racial level most of Poland is Nordic white with a noted percentage of slavic from the Russian occupations.

The Polish in Britain actually reinforce values of traditionalism and are quite racialist in how they view things, which is a positive for the country today as it is being swept away by the confusion of the multicultural mass media crap promulgated from California.

immigration to a relatives country related to each other in somehow is okay it seems and good ,
but not race mixing
True. But, what do you define as "related to each other"? Would that be by majority race, or as some people suggested, deeper divisions like "Germanic", "Slavic", etc.?
You're acting as if by sending non Whites out of White countries we hurt them, Schlomo.
 
Psychxdeliclove666 said:
There's differences in races, and differences in them, forever more. I think we need to learn to respect that, and see things like moral action instead. If I'm not mistaken, I think this person was criticizing Polish Immigrants for stereotypes such as them doing crime, not working hard, etc., but I think we then need to a moral character in everyone, not just in recent arrivals. A Polish man who works hard and contributes is more worthy of living in Britain than the British person who commits crime or does evil, we need to see past "they're different" as a critical thought, and start asking laterally "so what? Why does this/not matter?"

I don't really get that impression from Sonnenkraft's post as he specifically mentions Brits and Poles being distinct races, which isn't too uncommon a belief. I thought it for awhile as well due to how one can clearly identify a Pole from a Western European. People in real life look at me and know I'm Polish instantly; if they study me a bit further, they'll notice British genes that lend a certain shape to my nose, but my head and skin tone definitely have that Balto-Slavic thing going on.

It's actually kind of inverse from what 13th_Wolf said; Poles are primarily Slavic as the tribe that became the ancestors of the Poles and lent the country its name, the Polans, moved into the area several thousand years ago, speaking the proto-Slavic language that would eventually evolve into Old Polish and distinguishing itself from the Czech and Slovak languages that were developing across the mountains down south. Polish actually still has sounds in its language that other Slavic languages have dropped, which I've seen other Slavs say makes Polish sound both naive and ancient ("Naive" as well as "childish" are fairly common ways that Slavs describe the way other Slavic languages sound to them. The similarities are so strong still that nearly every Slav gets the impression that the other languages sound like someone mispronouncing theirs.). The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, which became quite a large nation in its few centuries of existence, was very multi-ethnic in terms of the various White peoples living there, which included Ruthenians and quite the population of Germanic/Nordic folk. Many of these people intermarried, whereas some just outright adopted the identity of Polish by virtue of living in the Commonwealth, as is the case for a Lithuanian family that I can trace my roots to. Russian genes being added to the mix came in the early 1800s after the Partitions, but this is still primarily found in eastern Poland and former territories stolen by the Soviet Union called the "Kresy."

Regarding moral character, I would agree with this in that it should be the next consideration after racial compatibility. There are certainly Brits who believe in the stereotypes that Poles are lazy and criminal - and they're not entirely wrong when faced with immigrants whose character entails leaving their homeland for money as soon as the opportunity arises, only to return to Poland the second Poland's economy improves and pretend they were hardcore patriots this entire time. Not all Polish immigrants in Britain are this way, naturally. My father is a businessman who has traveled to other countries, and his couple journeys to the UK taught him that there are a good many people in Britain who respect Poles for being hard workers and not fucking up their country like the invaders pretending to be refugees. It is fortunate that several decades under communism has not denigrated Polish culture to such an extent that Poles are a completely criminal, uneducated band of savages.

However, imagine if it had. Racial compatibility between Brits and Poles may still be there, but being brought up in a culture ravaged by communism would contribute even more to ideological conflict and behavioral differences that generate animosity. You see it on some level already, as many Poles left Poland in the first place due to decades of a negative impression of their own country imposed upon them by a communist regime. The economy was in the absolute shitter because lo and behold, communism doesn't bode well for standards of living, GDP and wages. They had grown accustomed to being told "nie ma" when asking for an item at a store, which means they don't have it. Poles became dreary and bitter at their lot in life, and a number of them did resort to criminal activities as a direct consequence of these comorbid factors. The stereotype that Poles are excellent car thieves has some validity as well as its genesis in what communism did to the country. Had Poland not been given up to the Eastern bloc, chances are you wouldn't see Polish immigrants talked about in Western Europe the way they're talked about today. Because it wouldn't have been a horde of several million poor people leaving Poland in a short period of time searching for economic opportunities. It would have been more akin to the immigration to and from Western European countries, with a smaller ratio of these Polish immigrants being willing to turn to crime or take jobs that the natives consider to be lowly.
 
TopoftheAbyss said:
You're acting as if by sending non Whites out of White countries we hurt them, Schlomo.

A Schlomo !!!! , because you couldn't' handle a discussion (triggered ) telling i am schlomo Really :?: :?:
this is how you discuss With JOS members here , in a Shameful way !! ..

Both Poland + Britain great nations YES they can live together , BUT YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION
every nation in europe have physical characteristics Everyone have his own unique appearance Because of Satan Creation.
Satan created germanic people and Appeared for them AS ODIN or Wotan(they have their own language, unique skeleton,unique etc)
Satan created Slavic people and Appeared for them AS VELES or PERUN (they have their own language, unique skeleton etcc...)
satan gives unique creation for indian,persian,greeks,Yazedi, for many .

but all are ARYANS(nobles).

and i don't think mixing in heavily way is going to end good for both polish and British people OK ,
as an example
France or franks are considered to be a Germanic people they used to be blonde blue eyed (Ancient appearance), BUT now unfortunately

do you ACCEPT HAVING A CHILD WITH TALL HEIGHT BUT SHORT HAND AND ROUND HEAD WITH SHORT NECK
ITS NOT ABOUT STAYING WHITE WITH BLONDE HAIR, BONES SKELETON SKULL PLAYS A HUGE ROLE .
 
both polish and British are great nation, my discussion has nothing to with criticizing Poland at all 0%
european can live with each other its not a problem

EUROPEANS CAN COEXIST WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE THEY ARE NOBLES (ARYANS)
i just want to make it clear that
satan is considered Vulos (maybe volos)or Weles or perun according to Slavic people
it mean satan created a beautiful and powerful race the slavic race
slave have their unique appearance unique skull,skeleton etc... satan created them unique
so do the British people (old germanic people) anglo saxon,
and mixing both germanic + slavic in heavily way(to much) its not going to end good (Harmful)
yes they will remain white with high iq and beautiful ,but maybe something exception might happen.

note * not all now british are british(old germanic)
or perfect example france used to be Franks( old germanic)
 
All I'm seeing here is a superficial argument from the OP. She's debating everything with superficial opinions based on PC ethics and morality, rather than analysis things in-depth and from the spiritual level too.

Have you thought that souls are different? Every soul has race, sex and sexual orientation embedded in it since source, then they also different on an individual basis as no two blueprints are alike. Race is not only about outward appearance but also about psychology and culture. What do you think it happens if you put people from a different background with different morality and ethics standards together? There's going to be a clash. While among people of the same culture, behaviour can only vary so much, people of different cultures will only bring confusion and division in the various layers of society, which only works to fuel social tensions and keep the population distracted from the real problems: the kikes and what they're doing to humanity. Even after the kikes are defeated and go extinct (by virtue of their soul matrix being destroyed by our RTRs), the social tensions will remain if you forcefully keep people of different racial backgrounds together. This causes social instability and deters society from evolving toward better futures: at best, slowing down positive evolution; at worst, completely halting it and polluting the racial consciousness.


Things are not as so simple as to only consider whether someone works and is not a criminal. It's like applying spiritual alchemy to our race at large: in order to advance your race, you must first purify it with with fire, which isolate and remove chaotic/foreign/heavy elements from the racial consciousness (physically from your country and continent by sending foreigners back home and applying eugenics to generate as many pure bodies as possible); then, the efforts can be fully focused on implementing solutions that work for bringing about advancement in all fields of society, which cannot happen if the society is not in harmony with all members acting productively.


Those who have birth charts that suggest working away from the birth country should always limit themselves to the countries of their own race. For examples, Whites are "limited" to Europe, North America, Australia and New Zealand.


Subsequently, further divisions may be made to "divide" White people by their main branches: Germanic, Celtic, Balto-Slavic, Hellenic, Italic and so on. But it's too early now to think about that.
 
sonnenkraft said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
You're acting as if by sending non Whites out of White countries we hurt them, Schlomo.

A Schlomo !!!! , because you couldn't' handle a discussion (triggered ) telling i am schlomo Really :?: :?:
this is how you discuss With JOS members here , in a Shameful way !! ..

Both Poland + Britain great nations YES they can live together , BUT YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION
every nation in europe have physical characteristics Everyone have his own unique appearance Because of Satan Creation.
Satan created germanic people and Appeared for them AS ODIN or Wotan(they have their own language, unique skeleton,unique etc)
Satan created Slavic people and Appeared for them AS VELES or PERUN (they have their own language, unique skeleton etcc...)
satan gives unique creation for indian,persian,greeks,Yazedi, for many .

but all are ARYANS(nobles).

and i don't think mixing in heavily way is going to end good for both polish and British people OK ,
as an example
France or franks are considered to be a Germanic people they used to be blonde blue eyed (Ancient appearance), BUT now unfortunately

do you ACCEPT HAVING A CHILD WITH TALL HEIGHT BUT SHORT HAND AND ROUND HEAD WITH SHORT NECK
ITS NOT ABOUT STAYING WHITE WITH BLONDE HAIR, BONES SKELETON SKULL PLAYS A HUGE ROLE .
I was talking to the new guy who is either promoting immigration or trying too hard to fit by reiterating what we already know.
 
TopoftheAbyss said:
I was talking to the new guy who is either promoting immigration or trying too hard to fit by reiterating what we already know.

So sorry i apologize :roll: :oops: , sometimes i don't get Quotes here in jos
 
sonnenkraft said:
TopoftheAbyss said:
I was talking to the new guy who is either promoting immigration or trying too hard to fit by reiterating what we already know.

So sorry i apologize :roll: :oops: , sometimes i don't get Quotes here in jos

You're A and you want to quote B, yet B has answered to C, who's answered to D. What happens then when you quote B's post where they quoted other people? B, C and D will receive the notification too. I hope this explains. That's why it's advisable to check both the content of the message, and who's the last person in the quote.
 
Stormblood said:
You're A and you want to quote B, yet B has answered to C, who's answered to D. What happens then when you quote B's post where they quoted other people? B, C and D will receive the notification too. I hope this explains. That's why it's advisable to check both the content of the message, and who's the last person in the quote.

Thanks
 
sonnenkraft said:
both polish and British are great nation, my discussion has nothing to with criticizing Poland at all 0%
european can live with each other its not a problem

EUROPEANS CAN COEXIST WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE THEY ARE NOBLES (ARYANS)
i just want to make it clear that
satan is considered Vulos (maybe volos)or Weles or perun according to Slavic people
it mean satan created a beautiful and powerful race the slavic race
slave have their unique appearance unique skull,skeleton etc... satan created them unique
so do the British people (old germanic people) anglo saxon,
and mixing both germanic + slavic in heavily way(to much) its not going to end good (Harmful)
yes they will remain white with high iq and beautiful ,but maybe something exception might happen.

note * not all now british are british(old germanic)
or perfect example france used to be Franks( old germanic)

I understand that you weren't criticizing Poles; even if you were, there's definitely things about Poles and Poland that are worthy of criticism, so this wouldn't bother me in and of itself. My response was more to the specific use of the words "totally different race." I can see now from more of your posts that you're talking more about the differences between Germanic folk and Slavs, as opposed to the notion that Slavs are separate from Whites. This latter notion was a fairly common belief at one point in history.

I tend to like jumping into conversations like these because it can be a confusing issue for many people, and it remains as one for me to this day. I've seen a number of different stances on the subject, ranging from "even mixing between a Czech and a Slovak is race-mixing" to "it's fine as long as the two people are White." And then there's the intermediate position of how it's not ideal for, say, a Slav and a Nordic, or Nordic and Mediterranean Italian/Greek to mix, but it's acceptable for the time being when faced with our dwindling numbers and genocidal adversaries. Having healthy discussions about this topic and sharing gathered information is among the best ways for people to navigate the subject and come to a conclusion on the matter.

Regarding Satan and Veles, I believe it indeed to be the case that Satan's Slavic identity is Veles, also spelled Volos and Weles in Polish, since Polish uses W's for V's. I'm inclined to believe that Perun is instead Enlil/Beelzebub, but as the stories are largely spiritual allegories, it is understandable and expected that traits traditionally associated with Satan will bleed over to Perun in Slavic folklore.
 
Czech and Slovak being race mixing?
Language doesn't form ethnicity folks
I'm Czech and I look very very dinarid with some Mediterranean influences but I have more influences than this
That's why I only want a dark caucasoid girl
Nothing else
 
Psychxdeliclove666 said:
Let me know your guys thoughts :)

Immigration solves nothing. There are no exceptions to this. One will always "feel" safest amongst their own race and family.

If one has to move to a white country in order to "feel safe" there is a greater issue at hand that immigration will not solve. Also, what is criminal and one country, may not be criminal in another. This is obvious based on how communities have always been self policed in white society, vs arab, vs black and so on.

Also the analogy seems to incorporate christian immoral concepts rather than Satanists, while using a "Satanist" as the example.
 
$ignificant$un said:
Immigration solves nothing. There are no exceptions to this. One will always "feel" safest amongst their own race and family.

Sometimes people are born in the wrong country and culture. For example, most of my genepool comes from my Norman ancestors but I was born in Italy. The climate, both environmental and social, has always been hostile. Contrary to modern belief, Whites can't live anywhere on the planet but will only thrive in a certain quadrant based on their subrace and ethnicity. Growing up in my part of Italy, I developed skin disorders and eyesight issues because the Sun was simply too direct and strong for my genetics. Shopkeepers would always speak English to me in other parts of Italy, because they thought I wasn't Italian at all. I couldn't fit in with the culture and the diet excessively heavy in complex carbs either. Once I moved more up North in Europe, my skin disorders completely disappeared: the least critical areas first, the most critical in a few weeks. And other improvements to my psycho-physical health happened.

Likewise, a Black person is supposed to live as close to the Equator as possible because they need more direct sunlight and more sunlight in general during the day. Without that, their health will never be held to high standards because the lack of proper sun exposure will mess with everything on a physical and psychological level, such as the production of vitamin D and certain hormones, just to name two. And even within Black subraces and ethnicities, each has their own needs that pertain to a different area.

Man is not superior to nature but must work in harmony with it. Since xtardanity humans have believed they can do whatever the fuck they want and there will never be repercussions. That's why my pathetic ancestors moved to an area they weren't predisposed for living in and they paid the price for that and I'll pay the price for it until I finish sublimating the karma I inherited from my parents at birth and the one I made by living in a country where I should not have been.
 
When I was younger I didn't care but as I have grown older I have come to the conclusion that immigration isn't a good thing. For starters, you're getting people who leave behind their blood and soil for the chance of material prosperity (not all of them are successful in that regard). So they're the type of people who are willing and able to cut ties which means their loyalty lies only with themselves and their personal properties (which they may even consider people to be). They're ignorant on their rights, laws, and other important things about their host country and generally speaking if a migrant is from a communist country, they will try to turn their host country into one either through participating in its politics or inaction when corrupt politicians move things into that direction. They try to bring their home with them. Then there's the race mixing that occurs. In America, they keep bringing in migrants by the butt load but I keep seeing fresh faces on the streets as it is. Homelessness is increasing and the people who consider material prosperity greater than being around their own flesh and blood move into this country, acquire large sums of debt just to stay off the streets, and ends up taking jobs that those native to the country can use. These are the cowards of Earth. They run from their problems. They do not try to solve what's wrong with their home countries. They just run elsewhere. Then they have the audacity to talk against the native demographic while being full of ignorance about why they're even allowed there in the first place. People think America is racist yet all these people keep coming here. Kind of shows that the ones making the claims are the biggest hypocrites of them all because more often than not, they're either Jewish or a random minority.
 
Polish people and Britons are of the same race lol
 
I like to say "Consciousness is key"
What separates the white race?
Here's some of the things mentioned by other members and what comes to my mind.
----
Trends/Fashion/Art
Essence/Culture/Quirks/Character
Morality/Ethics
Social Intelligence/Small talk/Community
Community Advancement/Wealth
Societal Bonds/Family/Friends
Friends of friends
?Astrology (I know the HP mention Each country has its own Astrology Chart)?
History/Pride
Language/Accents
Weather/Natural Barriers/Terrain
Physical Qualities/Aesthetic/Beauty/Attraction
----
I believe within a truly Satanic Society, People would be inclined to seek out folk that are more like themselves. And perhaps eventually it might be a bit shameful to date someone outside of your greater community.
----
I can't imagine we would ever deny immigration as long as we weren't replacing the "Essence of the Community" as long as we weren't destroying our racial heritage. Perhaps limiting immigration as much as possible.
 
In my opinion migrating to a different country is fine so long as you are a responsible human being. I don't see why a foreign person should not be permitted to live in a nation so long as they contribute to that nation's growth (legally working and paying taxes).

I am against the idea that people born to a nation are somehow entitled to anything at all by default. It does not matter if you were born to a nation if you are a social parasite and don't contribute to it's growth you shouldn't have the full rights of a citizen, and if you do work and pay taxes like everyone else, you shouldn't be treated as a lesser citizen than anyone else. This is the simple answer in my opinion.


People who work and contribute should have rights and citizenship regardless of other factors. This of course assumes the person is of the race the nation belongs to. With proper laws and racial preservation being a concern again there can even be a balance and having people of other races working in our nations with temporary permits. This can be a massive help for people in poverty and if they work and pay taxes they bring value to the nation anyway, so it's a win-win situation.
 
I am not going to read all these comments so if this was touched upon I apologize.

Immigration to and from countries should be severely limited. There's many reasons why these 2nd and 3rd world countries are perpetually stuck. But the main reason is brain and labor drain. And just lack of revolutionary ideas.

Of course an Indian would love to come to America but this leaves India in perpetual stagnation. So long as people can immigrate to the west these people have no need to reform their government or improve the condition of their country.

Lots of leaders, from all around the world, are finally recognizing that this "open borders west" is not a humanitarian achievement but a war against developing countries.
 
Stormblood said:
$ignificant$un said:
Immigration solves nothing. There are no exceptions to this. One will always "feel" safest amongst their own race and family.

Sometimes people are born in the wrong country and culture. For example, most of my genepool comes from my Norman ancestors but I was born in Italy. The climate, both environmental and social, has always been hostile. Contrary to modern belief, Whites can't live anywhere on the planet but will only thrive in a certain quadrant based on their subrace and ethnicity. Growing up in my part of Italy, I developed skin disorders and eyesight issues because the Sun was simply too direct and strong for my genetics. Shopkeepers would always speak English to me in other parts of Italy, because they thought I wasn't Italian at all. I couldn't fit in with the culture and the diet excessively heavy in complex carbs either. Once I moved more up North in Europe, my skin disorders completely disappeared: the least critical areas first, the most critical in a few weeks. And other improvements to my psycho-physical health happened.

Likewise, a Black person is supposed to live as close to the Equator as possible because they need more direct sunlight and more sunlight in general during the day. Without that, their health will never be held to high standards because the lack of proper sun exposure will mess with everything on a physical and psychological level, such as the production of vitamin D and certain hormones, just to name two. And even within Black subraces and ethnicities, each has their own needs that pertain to a different area.

Man is not superior to nature but must work in harmony with it. Since xtardanity humans have believed they can do whatever the fuck they want and there will never be repercussions. That's why my pathetic ancestors moved to an area they weren't predisposed for living in and they paid the price for that and I'll pay the price for it until I finish sublimating the karma I inherited from my parents at birth and the one I made by living in a country where I should not have been.
R u completely nordic or you have some native ancestry as well
 
idiocy smasher said:
Stormblood said:
$ignificant$un said:
Immigration solves nothing. There are no exceptions to this. One will always "feel" safest amongst their own race and family.

Sometimes people are born in the wrong country and culture. For example, most of my genepool comes from my Norman ancestors but I was born in Italy. The climate, both environmental and social, has always been hostile. Contrary to modern belief, Whites can't live anywhere on the planet but will only thrive in a certain quadrant based on their subrace and ethnicity. Growing up in my part of Italy, I developed skin disorders and eyesight issues because the Sun was simply too direct and strong for my genetics. Shopkeepers would always speak English to me in other parts of Italy, because they thought I wasn't Italian at all. I couldn't fit in with the culture and the diet excessively heavy in complex carbs either. Once I moved more up North in Europe, my skin disorders completely disappeared: the least critical areas first, the most critical in a few weeks. And other improvements to my psycho-physical health happened.

Likewise, a Black person is supposed to live as close to the Equator as possible because they need more direct sunlight and more sunlight in general during the day. Without that, their health will never be held to high standards because the lack of proper sun exposure will mess with everything on a physical and psychological level, such as the production of vitamin D and certain hormones, just to name two. And even within Black subraces and ethnicities, each has their own needs that pertain to a different area.

Man is not superior to nature but must work in harmony with it. Since xtardanity humans have believed they can do whatever the fuck they want and there will never be repercussions. That's why my pathetic ancestors moved to an area they weren't predisposed for living in and they paid the price for that and I'll pay the price for it until I finish sublimating the karma I inherited from my parents at birth and the one I made by living in a country where I should not have been.
R u completely nordic or you have some native ancestry as well

Not completely. I have inherited a few native genes from the other side of the family such as body hair and dark brown hair. I don't like being a high-contrast person but at least the bone structure show it right in my face. I found that both my parents' surnames were in Bayern and Austria at some point at the beginning of the 1900 but I wonder if I am related.

I wonder what an ancestry tests would say. While ethnicity results may be corrupted like it often happens with Gentiles, the migration patterns at least should be displayed right. However, I am sure that, if any prominent member here were to take a test and they were careless with their cybersecurity, they may purposefully pressure companies to tamper with the data and would pay particular attention the real genetic profile that they keep to themselves.

Why are you asking?
 
Stormblood said:
idiocy smasher said:
R u completely nordic or you have some native ancestry as well

Not completely. I have inherited a few native genes from the other side of the family such as body hair and dark brown hair. I don't like being a high-contrast person but at least the bone structure show it right in my face. I found that both my parents' surnames were in Bayern and Austria at some point at the beginning of the 1900 but I wonder if I am related.

Stormblood, to Westerners, "native" means Native American aka American Indian. Just piping in in case you misunderstood, as I know you are from Europe and therefore unlikely to have Native American blood.
 
Lydia said:
Stormblood said:
idiocy smasher said:
R u completely nordic or you have some native ancestry as well

Not completely. I have inherited a few native genes from the other side of the family such as body hair and dark brown hair. I don't like being a high-contrast person but at least the bone structure show it right in my face. I found that both my parents' surnames were in Bayern and Austria at some point at the beginning of the 1900 but I wonder if I am related.

Stormblood, to Westerners, "native" means Native American aka American Indian. Just piping in in case you misunderstood, as I know you are from Europe and therefore unlikely to have Native American blood.
I meant native Italian ancestry
 
idiocy smasher said:
Lydia said:
Stormblood said:
Not completely. I have inherited a few native genes from the other side of the family such as body hair and dark brown hair. I don't like being a high-contrast person but at least the bone structure show it right in my face. I found that both my parents' surnames were in Bayern and Austria at some point at the beginning of the 1900 but I wonder if I am related.

Stormblood, to Westerners, "native" means Native American aka American Indian. Just piping in in case you misunderstood, as I know you are from Europe and therefore unlikely to have Native American blood.
I meant native Italian ancestry

My bad.
 

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