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NetemPtah

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After 3 months of hard work to attract money, spiritual and material (12-14 hours of marketing study) I discover today that the solar magic square I performed had a wrong pronunciation (Surya instead of Surya-yay), which the work spiritual (lakhshmi) I started on January 9th it was started in VoC, plus I failed 2 times wasting a month, the magic square of Venus. Now I started another one. I hope it will go well.
I am tired. And I don't understand why after 1 year of practice, on January 9th Satan didn't guide me to look at the calendar one more time. I don't expect things to be done for me.
Months ago, I did several spiritual workings for money, and I asked Satan to help me. I have never seen this help. In fact, the spiritual works didn't even work. But I thought it was karma. I realized I should start working harder. And I did, to no avail. Indeed, agony upon agony, failure upon failure, and tears, like now. There were days when I couldn't eat, because of no money. I have made sacrifices to chose this path, great sacrifices that I am still making. But after a year and a half of faith and work (at least 2 hours a day of meditation, up to peaks of 5), I see nothing. In fact, all things that make me wonder what I'm doing. I don't want to not do the work; I have to do it and I take responsibility for it. But I didn't get any signs. None. Agony, and in this agony I was left alone. I thought I was led by Satan in my path of making money, for me it is important, and necessary. But I discovered that this was not the case. I wasted hours and days. This "revelation" is devastating to me. I've been crying for half an hour and I, who never collapse, am genuinely on my knees, tired. I asked for a sign from Satan. I hope my first real, unmistakable sign arrives. But maybe that won't be the case.
If it had been a more favorable period astrologically, I would have started again from the beginning. But for a month, I will have to stay still, as neither Venus, nor Jupiter nor the Sun are in a good sign.
I hope I won't be attacked by the answers.
Perseverance and strength is a founding value of mine, my doubts and all this pain comes from months and months and months. Not from a frivolous expectation. I hope I have made myself understood, and receive real support. Because now I need it.
 
I am tired

You are doing well instead! Don't be tired! You've just realized that it's important to look at the calendar more than once to make sure it's not void of course (I used to take it for granted too) and what the correct pronunciation of a planetary mantra is, in short of course to learn something you have to fail first, figure out the mistake and correct yourself (that's how it works. For all kinds of mistakes), but you're doing it well and you should be proud of how you can figure things out and improve without giving yourself away.

after 1 year

I know 1 year you think is a long time, but trust me. 1 year is nothing. In fact, very often 1 year is not even enough to decently start a path in a conscious way. I the first year of really effective I only gave a superficial reading of JoS to understand what the topics were. You cannot expect to be adept at magic in one year and start Magnum Opus the next year.

Satan didn't guide me

You will not be Satan's puppet who will make you control the calendar by moving the string attached to your hand. Failing is the only way to figure out how to succeed. I have really failed so many things to figure out really stupid, but important details in spirituality. In fact, I tell you as a martial artist, get used to the fact that you will always fail and always correct yourself and do better by becoming better. That's really how and only how it works.
 
You are doing well instead! Don't be tired! You've just realized that it's important to look at the calendar more than once to make sure it's not void of course (I used to take it for granted too) and what the correct pronunciation of a planetary mantra is, in short of course to learn something you have to fail first, figure out the mistake and correct yourself (that's how it works. For all kinds of mistakes), but you're doing it well and you should be proud of how you can figure things out and improve without giving yourself away.



I know 1 year you think is a long time, but trust me. 1 year is nothing. In fact, very often 1 year is not even enough to decently start a path in a conscious way. I the first year of really effective I only gave a superficial reading of JoS to understand what the topics were. You cannot expect to be adept at magic in one year and start Magnum Opus the next year.



You will not be Satan's puppet who will make you control the calendar by moving the string attached to your hand. Failing is the only way to figure out how to succeed. I have really failed so many things to figure out really stupid, but important details in spirituality. In fact, I tell you as a martial artist, get used to the fact that you will always fail and always correct yourself and do better by becoming better. That's really how and only how it works.
I totally disagree with you and this response to stay positive is totally unnecessary, his post was clear about the problem, what he is going through I already passed, but I already found my answer

When we do the pact this is a joint work of both parties, we have protection and knowledge to put into practice, but as he wrote and I was also similar to what it seems to be missing is a commitment to the other party and not only his

Whatever the answer to his post I do not agree that an exaggerated positivity should be the answer and if he does not find here or then the post should have no answers because having this exaggerated positivity of "You are going well, no give up "," no, it's not because he ignored you "etc. will not help

This is not a matter of one year being sufficient or not but that he was wrong and was waiting guidance in error even after so long
 
You are doing well instead! Don't be tired! You've just realized that it's important to look at the calendar more than once to make sure it's not void of course (I used to take it for granted too) and what the correct pronunciation of a planetary mantra is, in short of course to learn something you have to fail first, figure out the mistake and correct yourself (that's how it works. For all kinds of mistakes), but you're doing it well and you should be proud of how you can figure things out and improve without giving yourself away.



I know 1 year you think is a long time, but trust me. 1 year is nothing. In fact, very often 1 year is not even enough to decently start a path in a conscious way. I the first year of really effective I only gave a superficial reading of JoS to understand what the topics were. You cannot expect to be adept at magic in one year and start Magnum Opus the next year.



You will not be Satan's puppet who will make you control the calendar by moving the string attached to your hand. Failing is the only way to figure out how to succeed. I have really failed so many things to figure out really stupid, but important details in spirituality. In fact, I tell you as a martial artist, get used to the fact that you will always fail and always correct yourself and do better by becoming better. That's really how and only how it works.

Thanks for answering me.
The pain is still here, deep and strong.
But I told myself that if a year is not enough, 2 will be.
Making money, having a company, I deeply feel like it's in my fate, and I feel that fulfilling this desire is nurturing me, my future spiritual path, my studies, and the place of the Gods (I want to donate a lot, I feel like also this is in my fate).
My pain is fear. Because I'm afraid of suffering. I had a very very difficult life. I don't want to fight anymore, and I am afraid.
I'm still here, I am still crying.
But in all this pain, I know what I want, and that I want it TRULY. I am achieving it.
I believe that Satan will make me understand what is happening to me now. I felt betrayed for that first 30 minutes of complete despair. I felt so bad. But after a while, without even realising, I told "Satan guide me", and I felt it deep in my heart. The truth is I love Satan so much. I can't explain it. But I know that this love comes from somewhere. I love Him deeply, my faith goes beyond anything and I know he understood my moment. He probably doesn't even consider me, and another of my goals is to make myself worthy of his consideration. Another thing that makes me suffer so much is that I wasn't there from the beginning to count in the efforts against the Jews. But maybe I can do more for Satan.
Transformation is not supposed to be easy. And I don't want it to be. I want it to be true.
Maybe this feeling is a lesson for me... I know few people stronger than me; but I have to be even stronger. I'll wait another month, and start again. Nothing will stop me.
Thanks for your reply.
 
After 3 months of hard work to attract money, spiritual and material (12-14 hours of marketing study) I discover today that the solar magic square I performed had a wrong pronunciation (Surya instead of Surya-yay), which the work spiritual (lakhshmi) I started on January 9th it was started in VoC, plus I failed 2 times wasting a month, the magic square of Venus. Now I started another one. I hope it will go well.
I am tired. And I don't understand why after 1 year of practice, on January 9th Satan didn't guide me to look at the calendar one more time. I don't expect things to be done for me.
Months ago, I did several spiritual workings for money, and I asked Satan to help me. I have never seen this help. In fact, the spiritual works didn't even work. But I thought it was karma. I realized I should start working harder. And I did, to no avail. Indeed, agony upon agony, failure upon failure, and tears, like now. There were days when I couldn't eat, because of no money. I have made sacrifices to chose this path, great sacrifices that I am still making. But after a year and a half of faith and work (at least 2 hours a day of meditation, up to peaks of 5), I see nothing. In fact, all things that make me wonder what I'm doing. I don't want to not do the work; I have to do it and I take responsibility for it. But I didn't get any signs. None. Agony, and in this agony I was left alone. I thought I was led by Satan in my path of making money, for me it is important, and necessary. But I discovered that this was not the case. I wasted hours and days. This "revelation" is devastating to me. I've been crying for half an hour and I, who never collapse, am genuinely on my knees, tired. I asked for a sign from Satan. I hope my first real, unmistakable sign arrives. But maybe that won't be the case.
If it had been a more favorable period astrologically, I would have started again from the beginning. But for a month, I will have to stay still, as neither Venus, nor Jupiter nor the Sun are in a good sign.
I hope I won't be attacked by the answers.
Perseverance and strength is a founding value of mine, my doubts and all this pain comes from months and months and months. Not from a frivolous expectation. I hope I have made myself understood, and receive real support. Because now I need it.
“There are very few millionaires without a strong solar plexus chakra. To attract money and wealth, you must be open. You must be 100% that you deserve wealth and riches. Any past hang-ups concerning wealth [these can go back into past lives] must be completely destroyed and you must reprogram your mind and soul to attract money and that you are deserving of money. False religions teach that poverty is a virtue. This is so wealth and power can be in the hands of a few, while the masses are slaves.

The following working is effective in attracting money. Unfortunately, any permanent financial increases that are lasting take time for most people. In the beginning, small amounts of money may come to you, or a larger sum followed by modest amounts. Finances usually improve gradually. This has to do with your own personal spiritual abilities and powers. How strong you are indicates the length of time it will take you to permanently improve your financial situation.

The desire for and to attract money must be engraved and imbedded upon the soul. Workings must be consistent, with full focus and attention. Apply yourself 100%.
Signs that the working is effective is money coming to you, regardless of where or what it is from.”

One more thing I would say is
Money will never come to you with a scarcity mindset.

And your magick will never work with a negative mindset, no matter how much you’re doing, your efforts, or your spiritual power.

Magick is transforming reality to fit your desires, vision, and mindset.

So if you don’t have a positive view, attraction-based mindset, how do you expect to transform your reality?

Also, how do you invite the money to manifest? Do you have a job, business, side hustle, etc?

The spell will open up opportunities in these areas and will bless them to attract more and to also engrave on your soul that you’re attractive to money.

If you’re a beginner in magick never do squares, you have good and powerful money spells here why would you go to the most advanced and hardest of them all?

Squares can suck ass because of how complex and perfect they should be, in my opinion I would never do a square to attract money, it’s for more advanced work on the soul and chakras, in my opinion.

Money’s core values is not only about perseverance or strength, it’s ruled by Venus not Saturn. Act like a Venus, be attractive, and inviting to it.

Read this it has your answers
 
I'm sorry to hear you've been feeling this way.

I don't understand why after 1 year of practice, on January 9th Satan didn't guide me to look at the calendar one more time. I don't expect things to be done for me.
But there is a contradiction in what you say here.
You ask yourself why Satan Himself hasn't guided you to do X or Y and then instantly later you say you don't expect things to be done for you.
There might be some internalized/subconscious misconceptions at play here.

I understand how frustrating the errors you've committed feel.
You just gotta push through it though, and once enough time has passed you'll realize that every error is a learning experience, if you let it be.

Also, I don't know, maybe you're frying yourself? 2 to 5 hours of meditation daily sounds to me like an insane amount of time for a novice in this path.
I've never even came close to that, like 30 minutes, 1 hour tops in very rare cases (counting Rituals and stuff like that), although granted I'm not that advanced meditation-wise.

I totally disagree with you and this response to stay positive is totally unnecessary
What would you rather do instead? Keep kicking oneself down again and again, so they end up losing all hope and willpower?
A positive mindset (while still being grounded in reality) is key to success in life.
 
I'll give you another piece of advice so that you don't make another mistake, I'm not sure if you know it. VoC also applies to kabbalistic squares.
True.
It was a very stressful period, so I didn't double check the calendar that day.
“There are very few millionaires without a strong solar plexus chakra. To attract money and wealth, you must be open. You must be 100% that you deserve wealth and riches. Any past hang-ups concerning wealth [these can go back into past lives] must be completely destroyed and you must reprogram your mind and soul to attract money and that you are deserving of money. False religions teach that poverty is a virtue. This is so wealth and power can be in the hands of a few, while the masses are slaves.

The following working is effective in attracting money. Unfortunately, any permanent financial increases that are lasting take time for most people. In the beginning, small amounts of money may come to you, or a larger sum followed by modest amounts. Finances usually improve gradually. This has to do with your own personal spiritual abilities and powers. How strong you are indicates the length of time it will take you to permanently improve your financial situation.

The desire for and to attract money must be engraved and imbedded upon the soul. Workings must be consistent, with full focus and attention. Apply yourself 100%.
Signs that the working is effective is money coming to you, regardless of where or what it is from.”

One more thing I would say is
Money will never come to you with a scarcity mindset.

And your magick will never work with a negative mindset, no matter how much you’re doing, your efforts, or your spiritual power.

Magick is transforming reality to fit your desires, vision, and mindset.

So if you don’t have a positive view, attraction-based mindset, how do you expect to transform your reality?

Also, how do you invite the money to manifest? Do you have a job, business, side hustle, etc?

The spell will open up opportunities in these areas and will bless them to attract more and to also engrave on your soul that you’re attractive to money.

If you’re a beginner in magick never do squares, you have good and powerful money spells here why would you go to the most advanced and hardest of them all?

Squares can suck ass because of how complex and perfect they should be, in my opinion I would never do a square to attract money, it’s for more advanced work on the soul and chakras, in my opinion.

Money’s core values is not only about perseverance or strength, it’s ruled by Venus not Saturn. Act like a Venus, be attractive, and inviting to it.

Read this it has your answers

I have already read each of the sources you cited multiple, multiple, multiple times.
I had a breakdown after months, many failures and unfortunately an objective difficulty. I see people going down for a lot less.
Precisely for this reason I have been strengthening my third chakra for 4 months. I have already successfully performed other magic squares. I'm working a lot on the concept of "feeling" the result: thanks for suggesting it. I find the comparison with the energy of Venus very interesting, I will definitely use this analogy. It's very interesting, thanks.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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