I hope this is okay

[piplup_8910]

Hi everyone!

Miss Teloc Vovim and I have started a new yahoo group for women. We would like to help unite Satanic Women as there has been a lot of mischief happening on the groups recently. Men are allowed to join as well, but the group is mainly just to help women get things off their chest and help advance. If you want to join, you are welcome to!
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/JoS ... s/messages

Hail Satan! Hail Lady Lilith!

 

[piplup_8910]

@Shannon Outlaw
I hope you see this because Teloc and I would love to have your input on this group! We have been recently bombarded by other High Priests (Hooded Cobra and Magenson) claiming this group wasn't needed. I can't explain my points because I am restricted unfortunately.

 

[Mike Wilson]

Excellent idea sister. Good initiative 
Mike Hail Satan 

On Sunday, May 1, 2016, 14:53, piplup_8910@... [SSHealth] <[email protected] wrote:

  Hi everyone!

Miss Teloc Vovim and I have started a new yahoo group for women. We would like to help unite Satanic Women as there has been a lot of mischief happening on the groups recently. Men are allowed to join as well, but the group is mainly just to help women get things off their chest and help advance. If you want to join, you are welcome to!
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/JoS ... s/messages

Hail Satan! Hail Lady Lilith!

 

[soutlaw92]

I definitely understand the efforts to want to establish something specifically to help the women here in the JoS but in my own opinion, I feel that group probably is not necessary. I wont sit here and tell you not to do something you feel strongly about but looking at the bigger picture, a group for SS women wouldn't be too lively if you know what I mean and issues revolving specifically around women can be discussed on the health group (for women's issues) or on the main groups.
To be honest, I do not see how the topics that would be discussed on the women's group should be omitted from the main groups. This info is important to both SS men and women. It is much easier to share this on the main groups.
I hope this is understood and makes sense.
This is my opinion solely but I am sure the other HPs probably disagree for the same reasons.
If you want you can explain your points here.

 

[piplup_8910]

Thank you for hearing me out High Priestess Outlaw.
I understand where you are coming from, I was on the same side of the fence as well. I figured we didnt need such a group at first. But Teloc started telling me about women who were uncomfortable bringing issues into the main groups. These issues ranged from childbirth to picking a suitable husband to how to manage a family. Its also nice to have some other girls to talk to at times. I did speak with a lot of people about issues I had been having and they often said "I dont know, ask a woman". These issues pertained to fluxating emotions at times to having friend issues.
The main reason Teloc and I want to form this group is because we want a place that dismisses the negative ideas of females. There were several people in the main groups who lashed out at women who said they did not want to have children and now those people have gone silent. The atmosphere is sometimes tense in that group.
Some people claim we are dividing Satanists. We do not want that. We only want to show and help people learn more. For example, during Hitler's rise to power, he instilled two separate schools. One was for young make students, the other was for young female students. It became known as the League of German Girls. This League went all the way up till the girls were 18. They were then allowed to join another group that would support them till the age of 21. That is what we are trying to reciprocate here. Its not a "you have to be in this group and only this group" no. Its a support group to help women who really need it. Some may have gotten out of bad relationships or just dont understand things at times. Ive had previous Yahoo group members come to me and say they are leaving because of the negativity in the groups. A lot of people telling you what needs to be done or what you should do. Satanism should be about sharing ideas and branching off those ideas, it Should be about learning, not bashing other people in for differying opinions.
High Priest Hooded Cobra claimed we were trying to yank power from the Clergy's hands but we are willing to hand the group over to the Clergy if they feel very insecure about it. I told Teloc that if High Priestess Maxine says shut it down or its not needed, We will remove it. But we are just trying to help the women who really need it. I know several people who need a group like this and when I told them we were trying to start a group like this, they jumped on board.
Another person claimed this group sound feminist. We want men to join and learn more about their female counter parts if they choose to. Feminism looks to strip men of their pride and to make females dominate, but that is communism and a Jewish ideal. We do not want that.

 

[luka.huijerman]

It's sad really that woman feel insecure talking about the things on their mind in the main group because some people have screwed opinions about certain topics relating to relationships and child birth. 

Nobody should ever feel uncomfortable talking about something simply because some people are pushing their opinions on them. I have seen a lot of people give very close minded answers to these questions with a very hostile attitude so I certainly understand why some woman feel uncomfortable asking questions related to this in our group at the moment. 

However what you seem to misunderstand is that creating this new group is not going to solve this problem. It's only going to make it worse, because you will now be talking about these things in a seperate group and the people who pushed you out with their screwed opinions are not set straight, which creates a division between our members.

Even if it not your intention to divide our people, you are still dividing them which is evident if you simply look at all the opinions the people have said about this idea. 
It is not helping our cause, or you for that matter. 

If you need to discuss things like that you can also talk about them privately, or even make a topic where you simply stand up for yourself and explain your point of view to the less sensible people in the group.

All the HP's have shared their opinions and they are on the same line about this, that it is simply not going to help the group for the better. Also HoodedCobra wasn't insecure about loosing power over the groups or anything, he simply stated that you are trying to create your group and cultivate your own way of thinking which ultimately creates division between SS, which is not what the gods want. 

If you seperate yourselves in this way and talk about this together you will create devision and this will make other people also want to create their own groups and later you end up with one group for woman and one for men and then one only for couples and then one only for old people and the list goes on, which completely devides us all and this is how the jews can destroy our unity. 

Instead of breaking of into your own corner, speak up to the people whom you believe are being rash or hostile towards you, but use common sense and don't go around creating hostility. 

You have formed your opinion and you don't want to listen to reason, even when the HP's come in and give you reason. All the HP's have spoken and have told you WHY it is not a good idea to do this and why they are against this, but yet you simply try to go to the next HP and try to convince them of your idea. 

You are wasting everybody's time and creating unneccesary division amongst us by doing this.
Nobody said it was a bad initiative, but this initiative just isn't good for our community for the reasons explained by the HP's. 

You meant no harm with this, but it is creating harm because some members have taken it to a near fanatical level and started being exceedingly hostile when we stated our reasons against this. 

Also you speak about the clergy as if they dictate everything or want to have full power over us all. That is extremely disrespectful. You can clearly see they don't work on that level and it is not a matter of power over the group, it is simply a matter of unity and the HP's are working very hard everyday for our betterment and to keep our unity strong and now you start going against their efforts because your own opinions are more important than the whole of satanism. 

Why should maxine even need to waste her time on this? We don't need this, you don't need this and it's not good for anything. 

Also there is no reason to be insecure or to stay silent because some spiritually dull person is giving you shitty answers to your questions. You are all satanists and you are all proud and there is no need to hide behind a guise to try and cope with the pressure of your surroundings. 

If somebody spouts such nonsense they will be set straight by our well informed and long term members, or our sensible members. 

If you really are concerned how some people are viewing woman in the group, then speak up about it in the main group. That way you reach far more people and that way this problem can be solved. If you run away from it and create a new group to avoid the hostility of the feeble minded then this is never going to get fixed and the feeble minded people are going to stay feeble minded and keep their screwed opinions. 

Satanists don't need to resort to such things. Show some pride in yourself and speak up instead of slump away and talk about this in a small closed community. 

Take this into consideration.

 

[HPS Lydia]

Awesome replies, Luka and HPS Shannon.
The thing is Piplup, the enemy is going overboard lately on feminism. This group of yours will be turned into that, no matter how honest your intentions are. My intuition is dead accurate these days. I rarely log into the groups, I'm mostly just in the forums. But I had the "random" urge to log into the main yahoo JoS group and the first message I saw was Teloc's about the group, and my mind blew up. I felt it, I saw its future. I really don't care if I sound like a crazy person by posting this.
The enemy will mess with anything, no matter how good, pure, honest the intentions are. 

 

[piplup_8910]

Thanks for your reply Lydia,
However if that was the case, the yahoo groups would be the same way. I see a lot of anger and people being upset in the group these days. I saw a new member ask why the groups are always angry and why everyone is always fighting. I couldn't respond.
I understand your worries and concerns. However that idea is very stereotypical and Jewish in all ideals. If I let the group sink to the level, I might as well just delete it at that point. That is why I want men in that group as well. So if something seems feminist or overboard they can let me know and I will address the issue. We are fighting against society here and society, since its Jewish influenced, wants feminism to prevail. However, everyone in the group does not want that. So far all we've posted about in menstrual cycles and women in history.
I figured one thing I should mention is how women got together in past history. During Roman times, women would meet other women in garden's and discuss their lives. That is what we are trying to reciprocate. All we want it to be is a place where women can come and reflect and listen to each other. A place where women can talk about different parts of history and learn about What it means to be a woman. I know people think this group is going to turn into a feminist/communist hole, but I will willingly delete the group if that happens or kick the people out who is responsible. That is also why I wish to have a High Priest in there, to make sure things dont become feministic.
My intentions are true and I only want to see women better themselves. History shows women having places to retreat and enjoy leasure time. That is what we want. A place where women can relax and learn.
People claim this will cause division, but I feel it will cause reflection on ones self. What I mean is it will show women how to become a better person and more fearless. We always have the main group and this just wants to be an extension, like the LGBT group and this health group. If it caused such division, why do we have an LGBT, white, asian, and black group? Its the same concept. The main group will hold true to its ideals and it will be where everyone unifies to help one another.

 

[Taol]

The division has already been there. It has been shut up and know your place on this topic.
I have felt the jewish riddles in the people since the day I got to the groups. They are blind to this. Even some women are. But most I believe aren't. And I think right now, that the enemy wanted me to be cut off from this as well. That I had no place to discuss this from.
Don't get me wrong. I talk a lot with males just simply because they are often simpler in their minds and not being so kike/jewish women like.

I think it might be a good idea to make a few topics on this, but later when everything has been cooled down and when the information has been gathered.

See this as a learning experience.

What we know now, what I know now, is that to me I have to tell the whole story, not half of it. But also that we will get much resistance. The point is, we need some very well written text/pieces on this topic without hate or provoking anything.
Informational, not arising the idea of 'women are better than men'. 


The falling of the group JoSWomen might be within a month, or a few. But that does not mean that no work can get done.

Oh also, trusted members it might be smart to communicate over email.

 

[elephant255_rises]

Both the Yahoo Groups and Forum where infiltrated and "compromised" long time ago, This is why i stopped posting 2 and half months ago.
By "compromised" i mean JIDF (who have groups on social networks) and other "kosher warriors" who read and scope both the groups and forum DAILY. There's a high chance that our "friends" will read this thread, i hope you understand how grave this is.
Those "kosher warriors" have embraced the "holy mission" of shutting down every sensitive/problematic site or content we create and to D&C (Divide and Conquer) our members with skillfully crafted disinformation and ridicule/mockery (see the project "MOCKINGbird" for an example of this subversion tactic: MOCKINGBIRD: The Subversion Of The Free Press By The CIA | WHAT REALLY HAPPENED )

These kosher groups prey upon young inexpert members, guillable members that forget about the evils of 3000 years of jewry, upon reading a few lines filled with disinfo and childish, liberal level mockery and generally the ones that weren't serious with THEIR struggle to begin with.
The High Priests made the yahoo groups and a simple forum, those are 120% non-private, accessible (and readable) to any stranger, anytime.
They traded privacy and HERMETICISM (in the secretive and conservative sense, something that is hermetic) for visibility and accessibility, which are indeed convenient to spread our revenant spirit, but prone to sabotage and hotheads.


Private and encrypted sites are vital for the serious members.

Hail Satan
Hail the Gods
Hail the Demons of Hell




---In [email protected], wrote :

The division has already been there. It has been shut up and know your place on this topic.
I have felt the jewish riddles in the people since the day I got to the groups. They are blind to this. Even some women are. But most I believe aren't. And I think right now, that the enemy wanted me to be cut off from this as well. That I had no place to discuss this from.
Don't get me wrong. I talk a lot with males just simply because they are often simpler in their minds and not being so kike/jewish women like.

I think it might be a good idea to make a few topics on this, but later when everything has been cooled down and when the information has been gathered.

See this as a learning experience.

What we know now, what I know now, is that to me I have to tell the whole story, not half of it. But also that we will get much resistance. The point is, we need some very well written text/pieces on this topic without hate or provoking anything.
Informational, not arising the idea of 'women are better than men'. 


The falling of the group JoSWomen might be within a month, or a few. But that does not mean that no work can get done.

Oh also, trusted members it might be smart to communicate over email.

 

[Taol]

private and encrypted sites are of no use to the people that don't know or even slightly understand anything about that stuff.

 

[centralforce6661]

I'd like to just mention that posts in this thread which are questioning and posing questions of, to and about the JOS clergy may not be approved - not because you have no right to question them but those questions should be posted in the main JOS666 group, not here.

This is a health group and HP Shannon has allowed this thread for discussion but there is a line as to how far that discussion will go.

Gripes about the leadership need to be posted in the main group please, not here.

Please note this is not directed at any of the approved posts which have already appeared in the course of this discussion.

Thank-you