How to help someone find motivation to do yoga?

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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Just the other day I was pondering how useful yoga is. Thinking of hatha yoga, it essentially balances both the physical and spiritual aspects of the person at the same time. The stretch and movement of the tissues of the body unblocks stagnation of dampness, phlegm, tissues and allows fresh blood and water into the cells.

Therefore, the yoga is basically like the exercises of literally nourishing the body. Whereas cardio produces health benefits as a side effect of its main goal (running and doing that better), yoga directly aims at going around the body and generating health and energy for the tissues. This produces lasting affects of the epigenetics of the body.

Looking at the hatha routine, it is crazy to think about how only 20-30 minutes of time can produce all the results such as: stabilizing the digestive organs, clearing toxins and waste, pushing blood into the joints and spine, wringing the intestines to prevent fecal accumulation, calming and unblocking the liver, etc. It basically does everything.

I could go through and basically repeat this for the spiritual benefits. Each of the stretches done alone the meridians of the body directly adds energy back into them. This is similar to acupuncture or acupressure where the pushing on the meridians adds energy into the associated organs/functions.

Taking all these benefits together, it is clear why it lands firmly on Astarte's 8-fold path. There is just simply no getting around it.

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Addressing a few of his issues: Every exercise done, whether it is void meditation, spinning chakras, running, or yoga has both acute and long term benefits. It is impossible for something to produce long term benefits if it is not working on a short term basis. Feeling an energy buzz is proof of this.

As far as the relaxation or emotional aspects: if he is already tired than he is likely not caring about how he feels from the yoga. The urge to sleep may simply outpower the boost in happiness felt. It is also possible that he is used to the state of mind that comes with yoga and now doesn't recognize it as readily.

The solution is to simply do it earlier in the day when he is not tired. The ending hours of the day should be used for something simple like cleaning or reading. It should not be used for actual work or things that need to be done (and would be interrupted by fatigue). Put off as much "dumb labor" chores until the end of the day and save your active hours for harder work.

Although yoga offers time to also do void meditation, if he is dreading the overall activity, then I wouldn't try to combine these things. Instead, perhaps convince him to listen to a podcast or music or something that may mildly entertain him.

 

[Henu the Great]

It was a chore for me too. Longest time not doing it was two weeks at the end of the last year, or was it beginning of this year... I was physically hurting also for not doing it. Anyway. I realized that when one wants to advance there is no slacking. So I picked up where I left and excess pains left me, and I gained some flexibility. Also energy levels are constantly heightened. Besides doing a simple set that is shown on JoS meditation page is quite quick for newcomers (1min. per asana plus savasana is max. 40 min. a day).

I recommend doing Hatha evening time / before sleep, but not too late / too close to bed time.

So in conclusion he has to somehow come to the realisation that it needs to be done. It will happen in time, I'm sure.

 

[Username]

Does he breathe in a very relaxed manner while doing Yoga ?
Does he relax his mind and body as best as he can when doing Yoga ?

The keywords are :r relaxed mind, relaxed body and relaxed breathing.
I used to do Yoga and the best way to describe would be to trying to fall asleep when doing any yoga positions. Don'tell him to actually doze off as that would be dangerous. I am trying to convey to emulate the relaxedness when you fall asleep.

Maybe you could do Yoga with him for first few weeks as doing with a partner could encourage him. However, do it only for first few weeks as one should be independent. You are like a Mama bird and he is like the young chick.

Now the most important issue you talk about is not feling anything. I had made a post on this. Maybe this could help you.
Its also very important to not have any kinds of expectations.

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=44715&p=201103#p201103

 

[Jack]

Most certainly you could try to motivate someone and direct them towards something but in the end it's what their longing is,from the inside .A true Yogi is formed when the soul is so fed up from the samsara that it requires you to achieve liberation from it's innermost self . People like these are born different with special astrological positions of the planets related to meditation and the outer world. They and are generally uninterested in society and other people ,and find occult and meditation very early on in life. The primary inner longing for them is liberation. There are different shades of the same story but these people have the potential to achieve the greatest heights in occult power.

 

[Savitar]

It's important to get the Soma energy going with all practice, otherwise itt will be like a chore and the one doing it will dry out.

Every Asana has It's own Soma energy, which is the feeling of delight, that comes with the assumption of the pose.

Your partner should only do poses, that he/she can properly and effortlessly assume and hold it still. while holding anAsana, one should focus on the particular energy of the pose "massaging" the being, feeling it's deligth. This principle should be applied to all forms of practice (mantra, breathing exercise etc). This way It's a lot easier to maintain even a longer spiritual session.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

My partner has been doing yoga consistently for a while but I can tell that he doesn't enjoy it very much. He said it feels like a chore and that it takes way too long to do. He always postponed it until the end of the day when he's already tired which I think makes it worse too.

He does feel the energy buzz but doesn't notice any of the other benefits it has. I tried informing him about all the benefits I've heard about or personally noticed but he said they're all either too far into the future or he doesn't notice them personally, so it doesn't really feel like he's doing it for anything concrete, hence why it feels like a chore to him.

It used to feel like a chore for me as well, but then I became dependent on it in various ways (too many negative side effects if I skipped a day), started to become more aware of the extent of the benefits, and also started to enjoy the relaxation it offers. Since then it doesn't feel like a chore anymore, but is instead something I look forward to every day.

I think it would be much better and easier for him if he finds a way to enjoy it as well. Today I'm gonna try doing it together with him since he mentioned he heard having an exercise buddy can help with motivation (in general or when going to the gym for example).
Besides that, does anyone have any tips on how I could get him to enjoy it more? I'm glad that he's consistent with it despite it feeling like a chore, but it hurts to see him not sharing my joy in doing it. I don't want him to do it only because I asked him to, I want him to do it out of care for his own body and Soul and advancement. I want it to come from within.

I know I need to be patient though since he's newer to this path than I am, and I used to feel the same way he did. But it's really important to me that he starts to enjoy it eventually, for the sake of his future and to make things easier on him. Only he will do, so I want him to be always be strong and healthy and have a long lifespan so I won't be left behind.

Any advice is much appreciated.

He can listen to his favourite music while doing yoga. Also he should do it early in the day it will energize and relax him.

 

[luis]

If he is a Satanist he should understand its the only way if he want to advance. Being flexible is a must, on top of this I actualy feel my meditations better if I do Hatha. If I don't do it I start to feel a drop in energy, another would be pranayama. Its like they almost have different energies than mantra's that you need if you want to advance. He does not have to do it for long times just 10 minutes and then rest for another 10.

 

[Username]

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He does the yoga properly and he does feel the energy buzz; the only problem is that it feels like a chore to him.

My bad for not reading your question properly.
The only thing I would say is that whether yoga feels like a chore or something fun, it is something that is absolutely vital for benefits I won't describe as you already know.

I think him feeling it to be a chore but still doing it is a way of self advancement. Like he's still doing it even it feels like a chore. It would signify that he is very disciplined and that he is very strong mentally.

Don't get me wrong, Please follow other member's advice on helping him find motivation for now. However, please know that in the long term, helping him find motivation for it again and again would be impractical and harming to his growth of self.

This are just my thoughts. I hope what I have said doesn't deter a potential Satanist from the right path.
Please follow other members advice and help him find motivation this one time.
As for the future, you decide. I am nervous about what I have written as I don't want to harm the Satanic community by giving bad advice.

I really hope you get what I mean. If not, then pretend I did not reply to your post.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

It's important to get the Soma energy going with all practice, otherwise itt will be like a chore and the one doing it will dry out.

Every Asana has It's own Soma energy, which is the feeling of delight, that comes with the assumption of the pose.

Your partner should only do poses, that he/she can properly and effortlessly assume and hold it still. while holding anAsana, one should focus on the particular energy of the pose "massaging" the being, feeling it's deligth. This principle should be applied to all forms of practice (mantra, breathing exercise etc). This way It's a lot easier to maintain even a longer spiritual session.

This is amazing. Thank you brother for writing this.