Goin to UK uni.. But vaccines.

[sahasraraBliss666]

They require students to be immunised against

1. measles, mumps, rubella, including booster.
2. MenACWY
National policy highly recommends that children a d young adults should be protected with two doses of MMR what's this?

It is strongly recommended that student must have two doses of MMR before coming to the university.

Wtf is this vaccine...

Is this dangerous? how can I tell them that I do not want to take this vaccine as an international student... After. I solved the case with covid vaccine, now this what the fuck is this...

I won't take it.. So I'm cancelling this plan :'(

My future is fucked up.

 

[Sunny]

The MMR combination vaccine offers simultaneous protection against measles, mumps, and rubella. There is no drug that can cure measles, mumps or rubella. Only timely and appropriate MMR vaccination can protect against these diseases.

 

[shubhamrane666]

They require students to be immunised against

1. measles, mumps, rubella, including booster.
2. MenACWY
National policy highly recommends that children a d young adults should be protected with two doses of MMR what's this?

It is strongly recommended that student must have two doses of MMR before coming to the university.

Wtf is this vaccine...

Is this dangerous? how can I tell them that I do not want to take this vaccine as an international student... After. I solved the case with covid vaccine, now this what the fuck is this...

I won't take it.. So I'm cancelling this plan :'(

My future is fucked up.

If you arent in UK then you can easily have other ways and means to get the vaccine without getting it. It is something you should work to discover.

 

[Sunny]

It is normal that they ask this of international students. I think they also ask for HIV and hepatitis tests. Think about it, if an unvaccinated and untested foreigner is carrying a dangerous disease, they can't be so irresponsible and foolish as to allow that to happen.

Just do what they ask and rest assured. By the way, why don't you get a degree in your own country?

 

[FancyMancy]

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/mmr-vaccine

It's standard that UK Children get the MMR vaccine. I would be surprised if anyone (except jewhova's "witnesses") didn't.

 

[Stormblood]

:!: :!: :!: Vaccines :!: :!: :!:
Carefully check the working. Something that is "recommended" is not a legal requirement. If it says "compulsory", then it is. They should have it in their admission policy. I don't think MenACWY is compulsory. I don't have it. I've never heard of people who don't have the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines plus boosters. I believe those vaccines are compulsory in most of Western Europe.

Nothing is ruined. Try alternatives.


:!: :!: :!: British Universities :!: :!: :!:
Also, be mindful of what university you go to. Check rankings such as on The Guardian, The Complete University Guide, etc. Where you go to university can be very important and a real advantage to your CV. The universities with a strong international reputation are Cambridge, Oxford and some London universities (King's College, Imperial College, University College, LSE). Durham is considered very good too within the country, but not considered outside the countries. Tiers would be like:

1. Oxford and Cambridge (ranked in the top 3 globally together with Harvard) TOP
2. Those 4 London universities, Durham and St Andrews VERY HIGH
3. Other Russell Group universities (this group is comparable to the Ivy League in the USA) plus certain other prestigious universities like Kent, Lancaster, Reading (probably others I don't remember) MEDIUM to HIGH
5. Any shit-tier university which is the rest like Salford, MMU, Staffs, Keele, BCU... BOTTOM-tier

Length of programmes is also different in Scotland. England and Wales have 3 years bachelor programmes and 1 year master programmes, while in Scotland it's 4 and 1 respectively.

Some universities are also appalling when it comes to student support services regardless of their tier. Manchester and Nottingham are two examples of that. I would not neglect this fact, even if your IQ were to be 150+.

Another thing you need to be aware of is that student visas have a fixed amount of hours you could work to support your expenses. You won't be able to exceed that because every employer is required by law to check your right to work and also check in with the government that you're not lying about having other jobs. Lying usually results in your application being withdrawn and you could get in legal trouble as well for trying to cheat your visa. I am talking about this limitation because tuition fees are even more extortionate for international students, and you don't get any maintenance support either. So you may need to check with your own country's government/embassy if they can aid you financially, should you be unable to support yourself. (Some retarded governments such as the Italian government do not support Bachelor's degree outside the country.) I think proving you can support yourself is a legal requirement to acquire your visa.

Be prepared to answer in your university application (specifically in your personal statement) why are you applying to British universities and not in your country, just like Master asked you, and check your qualifications because requirements are very high in the best universities (#1 to most of #3 in the list above)

If none of the above applies to you because you already thought it through and have your answers, just disregard it altogether.

 

[sahasraraBliss666]

:!: :!: :!: Vaccines :!: :!: :!:
Carefully check the working. Something that is "recommended" is not a legal requirement. If it says "compulsory", then it is. They should have it in their admission policy. I don't think MenACWY is compulsory. I don't have it. I've never heard of people who don't have the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines plus boosters. I believe those vaccines are compulsory in most of Western Europe.

Nothing is ruined. Try alternatives.


:!: :!: :!: British Universities :!: :!: :!:
Also, be mindful of what university you go to. Check rankings such as on The Guardian, The Complete University Guide, etc. Where you go to university can be very important and a real advantage to your CV. The universities with a strong international reputation are Cambridge, Oxford and some London universities (King's College, Imperial College, University College, LSE). Durham is considered very good too within the country, but not considered outside the countries. Tiers would be like:

1. Oxford and Cambridge (ranked in the top 3 globally together with Harvard) TOP
2. Those 4 London universities, Durham and St Andrews VERY HIGH
3. Other Russell Group universities (this group is comparable to the Ivy League in the USA) plus certain other prestigious universities like Kent, Lancaster, Reading (probably others I don't remember) MEDIUM to HIGH
5. Any shit-tier university which is the rest like Salford, MMU, Staffs, Keele, BCU... BOTTOM-tier

Length of programmes is also different in Scotland. England and Wales have 3 years bachelor programmes and 1 year master programmes, while in Scotland it's 4 and 1 respectively.

Some universities are also appalling when it comes to student support services regardless of their tier. Manchester and Nottingham are two examples of that. I would not neglect this fact, even if your IQ were to be 150+.

Another thing you need to be aware of is that student visas have a fixed amount of hours you could work to support your expenses. You won't be able to exceed that because every employer is required by law to check your right to work and also check in with the government that you're not lying about having other jobs. Lying usually results in your application being withdrawn and you could get in legal trouble as well for trying to cheat your visa. I am talking about this limitation because tuition fees are even more extortionate for international students, and you don't get any maintenance support either. So you may need to check with your own country's government/embassy if they can aid you financially, should you be unable to support yourself. (Some retarded governments such as the Italian government do not support Bachelor's degree outside the country.) I think proving you can support yourself is a legal requirement to acquire your visa.

Be prepared to answer in your university application (specifically in your personal statement) why are you applying to British universities and not in your country, just like Master asked you, and check your qualifications because requirements are very high in the best universities (#1 to most of #3 in the list above)

If none of the above applies to you because you already thought it through and have your answers, just disregard it altogether.

I'm going in Wales.
It's just written on their website as "students should be vaccinated with these vaccines before coming to the university" no mention of it being compulsory.

 

[sahasraraBliss666]

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/mmr-vaccine

It's standard that UK Children get the MMR vaccine. I would be surprised if anyone (except jewhova's "witnesses") didn't.

Are these vaccines dangerous?

 

[sahasraraBliss666]

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I just found this quote from the university : Our aim is to simply be proactive in pre-empting a possible outbreak at University. The 2 doses of MMR have always been highly recommended before you start University but not compulsory. :roll:

But I'm thinking will they ask for a proof of this jab before I enter the class I have no idea.. Need to contact students from this uni.

 

[sahasraraBliss666]

It is normal that they ask this of international students. I think they also ask for HIV and hepatitis tests. Think about it, if an unvaccinated and untested foreigner is carrying a dangerous disease, they can't be so irresponsible and foolish as to allow that to happen.

Just do what they ask and rest assured. By the way, why don't you get a degree in your own country?

I'm going for masters. Post graduate program.
UK education is internationally recognized as compared to my third world country education.

So with a UK master degree in my hand from this prestigious university, I can land a job anywhere in the world. That's what I believe. Even in my own country, top companies will prefer me over others for the job and not to forget the 2 years of work experience PSW. It will help me alot in my third world country.

 

[FancyMancy]

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/mmr-vaccine

It's standard that UK Children get the MMR vaccine. I would be surprised if anyone (except jewhova's "witnesses") didn't.

Are these vaccines dangerous?

Were they? Maybe not; I've had it (but I don't know about any boosters), and Children tend to get these types of vaccinations when young; however, there was a thing about the MMR vaccine being linked to autism, which has supposedly been debunked... By whom, I don't know. Can we trust those who supposedly debunked the accusation?...

Are they? Well, based on what we know about certain things, and the alleged link to autism... I think anyone can put 2 and 2 together. There are entries on pubmed, ncbi.nlm.nih, WHO, wikipaedia... about the link to autism...

Apparently, there is a "mumps revival" now, and also Revealed: autism charity chief has links to anti-vaccine movement, and in Brevard there are religious exemptions for MMR and other vaccines.

I'm afraid you'll have to make your own decision about it. I am not a medical professional; just a mere sceptical Internet conspiracy theorist wacko who thinks there's a secret group working hard to whore-out and rape the World and Her Inhabitants...

 

[Sunny]

It is normal that they ask this of international students. I think they also ask for HIV and hepatitis tests. Think about it, if an unvaccinated and untested foreigner is carrying a dangerous disease, they can't be so irresponsible and foolish as to allow that to happen.

Just do what they ask and rest assured. By the way, why don't you get a degree in your own country?

I'm going for masters. Post graduate program.
UK education is internationally recognized as compared to my third world country education.

So with a UK master degree in my hand from this prestigious university, I can land a job anywhere in the world. That's what I believe. Even in my own country, top companies will prefer me over others for the job and not to forget the 2 years of work experience PSW. It will help me alot in my third world country.

Bravo, keep up the good work.

 

[Stormblood]

I'm going in Wales.
It's just written on their website as "students should be vaccinated with these vaccines before coming to the university" no mention of it being compulsory.

The only good (by reputation and intensity of research) university in Wales is Cardiff University, not to confuse with Cardiff Metropolitan university, and it belongs to the Russell Group. I don't want to know where you are going. I am just providing information. However, since you mentioned 'prestigious', I assume you're going there.

Most low-tier university are at least 70% muslims, have less important experiences in the offer (such as sports clubs, academic societies, and anything that helps you gather evidence of certain skills and qualities for when you make job applications or promote yourself as founder of a business or ask for a loan/mortgage/etc, and that bridge the gap between education and employment). Obviously, it also important to visit an university and get a feel for the campus and the people, not just the fine and gross print on paper/online.

I don't know if you received your offer yet or even have applied, but keep in mind they may reject applications. For example, last year I had many applications rejected because I graduated from school more than 3 years ago and they only consider recent qualifications.


If something is not compulsory, they usually don't ask about proof and, if they ask after you received your offer, you can just decline and say it's protected medical data. Asking to other students, like you mentioned, is a great course of action.

Consider that, compared to NPCs, you also have your AoP and the Gods' protection so you shouldn't get any severe adverse reaction to vaccines. However, I would consider getting each vaccine separately like one vaccine for measles, then after a while one for mumps, and after a while one for rubella. Triple vaccines have a much greater chance of severe adverse reactions, such as autism. The son of my barber when I was back in Italy was unlucky enough to incur into this. At least his GP was honest and admitted the vaccine was responsible for this.

Other than this, just like FancyMancy, I don't know much more than what conspiracy theorists and researchers write on the world wide web. When I joined the military a few years ago, I had to take a tetanus booster I missed. That same day our commanders also had a parade under the rain, and the vaccine gave me mild side-effects that are in no way related to tetanus: weakness, feeling very cold despite it was not cold, shaking, very low blood pressure that was even outside the range of the blood pressure monitor.

 

[sahasraraBliss666]

I'm going in Wales.
It's just written on their website as "students should be vaccinated with these vaccines before coming to the university" no mention of it being compulsory.

The only good (by reputation and intensity of research) university in Wales is Cardiff University, not to confuse with Cardiff Metropolitan university, and it belongs to the Russell Group. I don't want to know where you are going. I am just providing information. However, since you mentioned 'prestigious', I assume you're going there.

Most low-tier university are at least 70% muslims, have less important experiences in the offer (such as sports clubs, academic societies, and anything that helps you gather evidence of certain skills and qualities for when you make job applications or promote yourself as founder of a business or ask for a loan/mortgage/etc, and that bridge the gap between education and employment). Obviously, it also important to visit an university and get a feel for the campus and the people, not just the fine and gross print on paper/online.

I don't know if you received your offer yet or even have applied, but keep in mind they may reject applications. For example, last year I had many applications rejected because I graduated from school more than 3 years ago and they only consider recent qualifications.


If something is not compulsory, they usually don't ask about proof and, if they ask after you received your offer, you can just decline and say it's protected medical data. Asking to other students, like you mentioned, is a great course of action.

Consider that, compared to NPCs, you also have your AoP and the Gods' protection so you shouldn't get any severe adverse reaction to vaccines. However, I would consider getting each vaccine separately like one vaccine for measles, then after a while one for mumps, and after a while one for rubella. Triple vaccines have a much greater chance of severe adverse reactions, such as autism. The son of my barber when I was back in Italy was unlucky enough to incur into this. At least his GP was honest and admitted the vaccine was responsible for this.

Other than this, just like FancyMancy, I don't know much more than what conspiracy theorists and researchers write on the world wide web. When I joined the military a few years ago, I had to take a tetanus booster I missed. That same day our commanders also had a parade under the rain, and the vaccine gave me mild side-effects that are in no way related to tetanus: weakness, feeling very cold despite it was not cold, shaking, very low blood pressure that was even outside the range of the blood pressure monitor.

Thank you for the input. It's stated on their website that it's recommended but not mandatory. So I guess I wouldn't need any medical proof of these vaccines