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Easy ways to awaken and rise the Kundalini serpent?

I have found an awesome way to open your chakras and allow energy to flow through them. On the JOS website while looking at ways to astral project, Robert Bruce was mentioned. I Googled his name and found a site called "Treatise on Astral Travel." I have not tried his methods for that yet, but he did tell an interesting way to get energy flowing through your chakras. He said to visualize your "astral body" which is inside you, and using your astral hands, pull energy up from your feet, up your legs, and into your chakras. You do it for each chakra, one at a time--first chakra, then hands pull up more energy into 2nd chakra, etc. By the time you get it out your crown chakra, imagine energy flowing through your body, from feet to crown. You can actually feel it, it is very satisfying to do this! Try it more than once. he did say one thing I found to not work, however--he said to "close" your chakras afterwards and push the energy back down--WRONG idea. He himself admitted this later in the treatise! I did it and felt horrible, so I energized the chakras again and this time did not close anything. You really have to ask Satan if something seems wrong, and I should have. But bringing energy from your feet chakras up through the crown via the "astral hands" is awesome, I do it all the time now.....
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lrail36" <lrail36@... wrote:

Know of any?
 
Moonshadow, it seems like you already have it in order,I can see that your guardian deamon is working with you, because how else would you have known to not accept the information robert bruce said about closing your chakra.that's a huge "NO NO".   Hey, I too have completed all the beginners power meditation methods and are moving on to the intermediate meditation methods and it feels really regreat. I quess what i'm saying is keep on keeping on.
 
Hail Enki
Peace and love to HP Maxine  
Hail Enki
 

--- On Sat, 7/25/09, moonshadow46@... <moonshadow46@... wrote:


From: moonshadow46@... <moonshadow46@...
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Easy ways to awaken and rise the Kundalini serpent?
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:12 PM


 



I have found an awesome way to open your chakras and allow energy to flow through them. On the JOS website while looking at ways to astral project, Robert Bruce was mentioned. I Googled his name and found a site called "Treatise on Astral Travel." I have not tried his methods for that yet, but he did tell an interesting way to get energy flowing through your chakras. He said to visualize your "astral body" which is inside you, and using your astral hands, pull energy up from your feet, up your legs, and into your chakras. You do it for each chakra, one at a time--first chakra, then hands pull up more energy into 2nd chakra, etc. By the time you get it out your crown chakra, imagine energy flowing through your body, from feet to crown. You can actually feel it, it is very satisfying to do this! Try it more than once. he did say one thing I found to not work, however--he said to "close" your chakras afterwards and push the energy back down--WRONG idea. He
himself admitted this later in the treatise! I did it and felt horrible, so I energized the chakras again and this time did not close anything. You really have to ask Satan if something seems wrong, and I should have. But bringing energy from your feet chakras up through the crown via the "astral hands" is awesome, I do it all the time now.....
--- In Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com, "lrail36" <lrail36@... wrote:

Know of any?




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
good stuff! i'll try that later today.


"moonshadow46@..." <moonshadow46@... wrote:

I have found an awesome way to open your chakras and allow energy to flow through them. On the JOS website while looking at ways to astral project, Robert Bruce was mentioned. I Googled his name and found a site called "Treatise on Astral Travel." I have not tried his methods for that yet, but he did tell an interesting way to get energy flowing through your chakras. He said to visualize your "astral body" which is inside you, and using your astral hands, pull energy up from your feet, up your legs, and into your chakras. You do it for each chakra, one at a time--first chakra, then hands pull up more energy into 2nd chakra, etc. By the time you get it out your crown chakra, imagine energy flowing through your body, from feet to crown. You can actually feel it, it is very satisfying to do this! Try it more than once. he did say one thing I found to not work, however--he said to "close" your chakras afterwards and push the energy back down--WRONG idea. He himself admitted this later in the treatise! I did it and felt horrible, so I energized the chakras again and this time did not close anything. You really have to ask Satan if something seems wrong, and I should have. But bringing energy from your feet chakras up through the crown via the "astral hands" is awesome, I do it all the time now.....<
 
thank you, Joann, I think you are probably right--anyway I know I am great with visualization and every other part of the meditations, I just expected to be more "overwhelmed" by the astral than I am. I suppose I should consider myself lucky I have not run into any negative entities...but some talk of "popping" out of their body, etc. Perhaps for me it's just more subtle, I do see moving energy behind my eyes...purple and yellow usually...thanks again! :)
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Joann Reeves <kosmos_9@... wrote:

Moonshadow, it seems like you already have it in order,I can see that your guardian deamon is working with you, because how else would you have known to not accept the information robert bruce said about closing your chakra.that's a huge "NO NO".   Hey, I too have completed all the beginners power meditation methods and are moving on to the intermediate meditation methods and it feels really regreat. I quess what i'm saying is keep on keeping on.
 
Hail Enki
Peace and love to HP Maxine  
Hail Enki
 

--- On Sat, 7/25/09, moonshadow46@... <moonshadow46@... wrote:


From: moonshadow46@... <moonshadow46@...
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Easy ways to awaken and rise the Kundalini serpent?
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:12 PM


 



I have found an awesome way to open your chakras and allow energy to flow through them. On the JOS website while looking at ways to astral project, Robert Bruce was mentioned. I Googled his name and found a site called "Treatise on Astral Travel." I have not tried his methods for that yet, but he did tell an interesting way to get energy flowing through your chakras. He said to visualize your "astral body" which is inside you, and using your astral hands, pull energy up from your feet, up your legs, and into your chakras. You do it for each chakra, one at a time--first chakra, then hands pull up more energy into 2nd chakra, etc. By the time you get it out your crown chakra, imagine energy flowing through your body, from feet to crown. You can actually feel it, it is very satisfying to do this! Try it more than once. he did say one thing I found to not work, however--he said to "close" your chakras afterwards and push the energy back down--WRONG idea. He
himself admitted this later in the treatise! I did it and felt horrible, so I energized the chakras again and this time did not close anything. You really have to ask Satan if something seems wrong, and I should have. But bringing energy from your feet chakras up through the crown via the "astral hands" is awesome, I do it all the time now.....
--- In Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com, "lrail36" <lrail36@ wrote:

Know of any?




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
Moonshadown, i'd like to here more of your experience with the astral projection.  How did u feel after you completed the beginners meditation methods . I felt very empowered.  I'm extremely excited that we could all come online and share our experiences as true satanists.  However, I think that we all as satanist should get more involved in our socialism because It may come a time when we won't be able to chat online Like we today.  NO Harm  intended, I'm Just being optimistic these days. 
 
 
--- On Wed, 7/2I 9/09, moonshadow46@... <moonshadow46@... wrote:


From: moonshadow46@... <moonshadow46@...
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Easy ways to awaken and rise the Kundalini serpent?
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 5:49 PM


 



thank you, Joann, I think you are probably right--anyway I know I am great with visualization and every other part of the meditations, I just expected to be more "overwhelmed" by the astral than I am. I suppose I should consider myself lucky I have not run into any negative entities...but some talk of "popping" out of their body, etc. Perhaps for me it's just more subtle, I do see moving energy behind my eyes...purple and yellow usually...thanks again! :)
--- In Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com, Joann Reeves <kosmos_9@.. . wrote:

Moonshadow, it seems like you already have it in order,I can see that your guardian deamon is working with you, because how else would you have known to not accept the information robert bruce said about closing your chakra.that' s a huge "NO NO".   Hey, I too have completed all the beginners power meditation methods and are moving on to the intermediate meditation methods  and it feels really regreat.  I quess what i'm saying is keep on keeping on.
 
Hail Enki
Peace and love to HP Maxine  
Hail Enki
 

--- On Sat, 7/25/09, moonshadow46@ ... <moonshadow46@ ... wrote:


From: moonshadow46@ ... <moonshadow46@ ...
Subject: [Advanced_Meditatio n] Re: Easy ways to awaken and rise the Kundalini serpent?
To: Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:12 PM


 



I have found an awesome way to open your chakras and allow energy to flow through them. On the JOS website while looking at ways to astral project, Robert Bruce was mentioned. I Googled his name and found a site called "Treatise on Astral Travel." I have not tried his methods for that yet, but he did tell an interesting way to get energy flowing through your chakras. He said to visualize your "astral body" which is inside you, and using your astral hands, pull energy up from your feet, up your legs, and into your chakras. You do it for each chakra, one at a time--first chakra, then hands pull up more energy into 2nd chakra, etc. By the time you get it out your crown chakra, imagine energy flowing through your body, from feet to crown. You can actually feel it, it is very satisfying to do this! Try it more than once. he did say one thing I found to not work, however--he said to "close" your chakras afterwards and push the energy back down--WRONG idea.
He
himself admitted this later in the treatise! I did it and felt horrible, so I energized the chakras again and this time did not close anything. You really have to ask Satan if something seems wrong, and I should have. But bringing energy from your feet chakras up through the crown via the "astral hands" is awesome, I do it all the time now.....
--- In Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com, "lrail36" <lrail36@ wrote:

Know of any?




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
I tried the method where you spin your chakras one at a time, then stop it and turn it to the left a bit--I guess to "loosen" the astral body so ti can go onto the astral plane. I wasn't successful with that. I read of people actually seeing things on the astral, but all I can see is shapeless colors. I do see purple and yellow mostly, I think I am seeing my aura b/c a psychic reader once told me she saw auras and mine were purple and yellow! I don't know about "the future of the internet" but I sure hope it continues and people can become educated...it will be a sad day for "freedom of speech" if that happens...but we can all put up flyers and stuff, to try to get the word out and make people more educated...
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Joann Reeves <kosmos_9@... wrote:

Moonshadown, i'd like to here more of your experience with the astral projection.  How did u feel after you completed the beginners meditation methods . I felt very empowered.  I'm extremely excited that we could all come online and share our experiences as true satanists.  However, I think that we all as satanist should get more involved in our socialism because It may come a time when we won't be able to chat online Like we today.  NO Harm  intended, I'm Just being optimistic these days. 
 
 
--- On Wed, 7/2I 9/09, moonshadow46@... <moonshadow46@... wrote:


From: moonshadow46@... <moonshadow46@...
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Easy ways to awaken and rise the Kundalini serpent?
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 5:49 PM


 



thank you, Joann, I think you are probably right--anyway I know I am great with visualization and every other part of the meditations, I just expected to be more "overwhelmed" by the astral than I am. I suppose I should consider myself lucky I have not run into any negative entities...but some talk of "popping" out of their body, etc. Perhaps for me it's just more subtle, I do see moving energy behind my eyes...purple and yellow usually...thanks again! :)
--- In Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com, Joann Reeves <kosmos_9@ . wrote:

Moonshadow, it seems like you already have it in order,I can see that your guardian deamon is working with you, because how else would you have known to not accept the information robert bruce said about closing your chakra.that' s a huge "NO NO".   Hey, I too have completed all the beginners power meditation methods and are moving on to the intermediate meditation methods  and it feels really regreat.  I quess what i'm saying is keep on keeping on.
 
Hail Enki
Peace and love to HP Maxine  
Hail Enki
 

--- On Sat, 7/25/09, moonshadow46@ ... <moonshadow46@ ... wrote:


From: moonshadow46@ ... <moonshadow46@ ...
Subject: [Advanced_Meditatio n] Re: Easy ways to awaken and rise the Kundalini serpent?
To: Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:12 PM


 



I have found an awesome way to open your chakras and allow energy to flow through them. On the JOS website while looking at ways to astral project, Robert Bruce was mentioned. I Googled his name and found a site called "Treatise on Astral Travel." I have not tried his methods for that yet, but he did tell an interesting way to get energy flowing through your chakras. He said to visualize your "astral body" which is inside you, and using your astral hands, pull energy up from your feet, up your legs, and into your chakras. You do it for each chakra, one at a time--first chakra, then hands pull up more energy into 2nd chakra, etc. By the time you get it out your crown chakra, imagine energy flowing through your body, from feet to crown. You can actually feel it, it is very satisfying to do this! Try it more than once. he did say one thing I found to not work, however--he said to "close" your chakras afterwards and push the energy back down--WRONG idea.
He
himself admitted this later in the treatise! I did it and felt horrible, so I energized the chakras again and this time did not close anything. You really have to ask Satan if something seems wrong, and I should have. But bringing energy from your feet chakras up through the crown via the "astral hands" is awesome, I do it all the time now.....
--- In Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com, "lrail36" <lrail36@ wrote:

Know of any?




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
There are different layers of the astral. It isn't what you expected,
because the first layer for most (that also depends on location and a number
of other associations) is full of illusions, and you will only see what
certain entities of power that control that astral space wish you to see.
If you've advanced enough in the astral, you may find certain barriers that
seperate different realities. Past those barriers are the truer nature of
things in the astral (some call it the upper astral), or to put it more
accurately, realities that are outside the influence of that particular
astral matrix. The way your energetic body interacts with the different
astral matrixes also determines if you can be within that particular astral
place and be subject to its influences, for example, how you perceive the
nature of things.



On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:02 PM, moonshadow46@...
<moonshadow46@...wrote:

I tried the method where you spin your chakras one at a time, then stop it
and turn it to the left a bit--I guess to "loosen" the astral body so ti can
go onto the astral plane. I wasn't successful with that. I read of people
actually seeing things on the astral, but all I can see is shapeless colors.
I do see purple and yellow mostly, I think I am seeing my aura b/c a psychic
reader once told me she saw auras and mine were purple and yellow! I don't
know about "the future of the internet" but I sure hope it continues and
people can become educated...it will be a sad day for "freedom of speech" if
that happens...but we can all put up flyers and stuff, to try to get the
word out and make people more educated...
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com,
Joann Reeves <kosmos_9@... wrote:

Moonshadown, i'd like to here more of your experience with the astral
projection. How did u feel after you completed the beginners meditation
methods . I felt very empowered. I'm extremely excited that we could all
come online and share our experiences as true satanists. However, I think
that we all as satanist should get more involved in our socialism because It
may come a time when we won't be able to chat online Like we today. NO Harm
intended, I'm Just being optimistic these days.


--- On Wed, 7/2I 9/09, moonshadow46@... <moonshadow46@... wrote:


From: moonshadow46@... <moonshadow46@...
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Easy ways to awaken and rise the
Kundalini serpent?
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 5:49 PM






thank you, Joann, I think you are probably right--anyway I know I am
great with visualization and every other part of the meditations, I just
expected to be more "overwhelmed" by the astral than I am. I suppose I
should consider myself lucky I have not run into any negative entities...but
some talk of "popping" out of their body, etc. Perhaps for me it's just more
subtle, I do see moving energy behind my eyes...purple and yellow
usually...thanks again! :)
--- In Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com, Joann Reeves <kosmos_9@ .
wrote:

Moonshadow, it seems like you already have it in order,I can see that
your guardian deamon is working with you, because how else would you have
known to not accept the information robert bruce said about closing your
chakra.that' s a huge "NO NO". Hey, I too have completed all the beginners
power meditation methods and are moving on to the intermediate
meditation methods and it feels really regreat. I quess what i'm saying is
keep on keeping on.

Hail Enki
Peace and love to HP Maxine
Hail Enki


--- On Sat, 7/25/09, moonshadow46@ ... <moonshadow46@ ... wrote:


From: moonshadow46@ ... <moonshadow46@ ...
Subject: [Advanced_Meditatio n] Re: Easy ways to awaken and rise the
Kundalini serpent?
To: Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:12 PM






I have found an awesome way to open your chakras and allow energy to
flow through them. On the JOS website while looking at ways to astral
project, Robert Bruce was mentioned. I Googled his name and found a site
called "Treatise on Astral Travel." I have not tried his methods for that
yet, but he did tell an interesting way to get energy flowing through your
chakras. He said to visualize your "astral body" which is inside you, and
using your astral hands, pull energy up from your feet, up your legs, and
into your chakras. You do it for each chakra, one at a time--first chakra,
then hands pull up more energy into 2nd chakra, etc. By the time you get it
out your crown chakra, imagine energy flowing through your body, from feet
to crown. You can actually feel it, it is very satisfying to do this! Try it
more than once. he did say one thing I found to not work, however--he said
to "close" your chakras afterwards and push the energy back down--WRONG
idea.
He
himself admitted this later in the treatise! I did it and felt
horrible, so I energized the chakras again and this time did not close
anything. You really have to ask Satan if something seems wrong, and I
should have. But bringing energy from your feet chakras up through the crown
via the "astral hands" is awesome, I do it all the time now.....
--- In Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com, "lrail36" <lrail36@
wrote:

Know of any?




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means fighting
me to protect his own."

"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
Thanks, Allen. So it varies according to your abilities and perceptions. But I only see colors. Is that what you call the "first layer"? I do not see entities, or landscapes, just color.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allen Walker <krystollsynth@... wrote:

There are different layers of the astral. It isn't what you expected,
because the first layer for most (that also depends on location and a number
of other associations) is full of illusions, and you will only see what
certain entities of power that control that astral space wish you to see.
If you've advanced enough in the astral, you may find certain barriers that
seperate different realities. Past those barriers are the truer nature of
things in the astral (some call it the upper astral), or to put it more
accurately, realities that are outside the influence of that particular
astral matrix. The way your energetic body interacts with the different
astral matrixes also determines if you can be within that particular astral
place and be subject to its influences, for example, how you perceive the
nature of things.



On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:02 PM, moonshadow46@...
<[email protected]:



I tried the method where you spin your chakras one at a time, then stop it
and turn it to the left a bit--I guess to "loosen" the astral body so ti can
go onto the astral plane. I wasn't successful with that. I read of people
actually seeing things on the astral, but all I can see is shapeless colors.
I do see purple and yellow mostly, I think I am seeing my aura b/c a psychic
reader once told me she saw auras and mine were purple and yellow! I don't
know about "the future of the internet" but I sure hope it continues and
people can become educated...it will be a sad day for "freedom of speech" if
that happens...but we can all put up flyers and stuff, to try to get the
word out and make people more educated...
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com,
Joann Reeves <kosmos_9@ wrote:

Moonshadown, i'd like to here more of your experience with the astral
projection. How did u feel after you completed the beginners meditation
methods . I felt very empowered. I'm extremely excited that we could all
come online and share our experiences as true satanists. However, I think
that we all as satanist should get more involved in our socialism because It
may come a time when we won't be able to chat online Like we today. NO Harm
intended, I'm Just being optimistic these days.


--- On Wed, 7/2I 9/09, moonshadow46@ <moonshadow46@ wrote:


From: moonshadow46@ <moonshadow46@
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Easy ways to awaken and rise the
Kundalini serpent?
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 5:49 PM






thank you, Joann, I think you are probably right--anyway I know I am
great with visualization and every other part of the meditations, I just
expected to be more "overwhelmed" by the astral than I am. I suppose I
should consider myself lucky I have not run into any negative entities...but
some talk of "popping" out of their body, etc. Perhaps for me it's just more
subtle, I do see moving energy behind my eyes...purple and yellow
usually...thanks again! :)
--- In Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com, Joann Reeves <kosmos_9@ .
wrote:

Moonshadow, it seems like you already have it in order,I can see that
your guardian deamon is working with you, because how else would you have
known to not accept the information robert bruce said about closing your
chakra.that' s a huge "NO NO". Hey, I too have completed all the beginners
power meditation methods and are moving on to the intermediate
meditation methods and it feels really regreat. I quess what i'm saying is
keep on keeping on.

Hail Enki
Peace and love to HP Maxine
Hail Enki


--- On Sat, 7/25/09, moonshadow46@ ... <moonshadow46@ ... wrote:


From: moonshadow46@ ... <moonshadow46@ ...
Subject: [Advanced_Meditatio n] Re: Easy ways to awaken and rise the
Kundalini serpent?
To: Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:12 PM






I have found an awesome way to open your chakras and allow energy to
flow through them. On the JOS website while looking at ways to astral
project, Robert Bruce was mentioned. I Googled his name and found a site
called "Treatise on Astral Travel." I have not tried his methods for that
yet, but he did tell an interesting way to get energy flowing through your
chakras. He said to visualize your "astral body" which is inside you, and
using your astral hands, pull energy up from your feet, up your legs, and
into your chakras. You do it for each chakra, one at a time--first chakra,
then hands pull up more energy into 2nd chakra, etc. By the time you get it
out your crown chakra, imagine energy flowing through your body, from feet
to crown. You can actually feel it, it is very satisfying to do this! Try it
more than once. he did say one thing I found to not work, however--he said
to "close" your chakras afterwards and push the energy back down--WRONG
idea.
He
himself admitted this later in the treatise! I did it and felt
horrible, so I energized the chakras again and this time did not close
anything. You really have to ask Satan if something seems wrong, and I
should have. But bringing energy from your feet chakras up through the crown
via the "astral hands" is awesome, I do it all the time now.....
--- In Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com, "lrail36" <lrail36@
wrote:

Know of any?




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means fighting
me to protect his own."

"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
That can possibly be true. The first layer is the wake up call, but not the
true wake up as most are very much enveloped in illusory reality of region
and time. Psychics who have seen auras from what I have read all saw
energy, though not all of them see it the same way. Some people perceive
only energy blobs, some see it as more detailed or as auras. Some don't so
much perceive it in the astral, but like actual reality, and some can just
perceive both and anything else at will. Here's an interesting book I have
in my collection that may give you a bit of food for thought. It is by a
mexican mystic called Duan Juan.Carlos Castaneda "The Art of Dreaming."
Even if it is in the new age section, it is probably one of the very few
books that is worth anything. These lines of books are the recollections of
one of the last mystics from a line of Toltecs.. this is not just another
new agey book full of fancilful theory, these are actual recollections.



On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:19 PM, moonshadow46@...
<moonshadow46@...wrote:

Thanks, Allen. So it varies according to your abilities and perceptions.
But I only see colors. Is that what you call the "first layer"? I do not see
entities, or landscapes, just color.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@... wrote:

There are different layers of the astral. It isn't what you expected,
because the first layer for most (that also depends on location and a
number
of other associations) is full of illusions, and you will only see what
certain entities of power that control that astral space wish you to see.
If you've advanced enough in the astral, you may find certain barriers
that
seperate different realities. Past those barriers are the truer nature of
things in the astral (some call it the upper astral), or to put it more
accurately, realities that are outside the influence of that particular
astral matrix. The way your energetic body interacts with the different
astral matrixes also determines if you can be within that particular
astral
place and be subject to its influences, for example, how you perceive the
nature of things.



On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:02 PM, moonshadow46@...
<[email protected]:



I tried the method where you spin your chakras one at a time, then stop
it
and turn it to the left a bit--I guess to "loosen" the astral body so
ti can
go onto the astral plane. I wasn't successful with that. I read of
people
actually seeing things on the astral, but all I can see is shapeless
colors.
I do see purple and yellow mostly, I think I am seeing my aura b/c a
psychic
reader once told me she saw auras and mine were purple and yellow! I
don't
know about "the future of the internet" but I sure hope it continues
and
people can become educated...it will be a sad day for "freedom of
speech" if
that happens...but we can all put up flyers and stuff, to try to get
the
word out and make people more educated...
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com
<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com,
Joann Reeves <kosmos_9@ wrote:

Moonshadown, i'd like to here more of your experience with the astral
projection. How did u feel after you completed the beginners meditation
methods . I felt very empowered. I'm extremely excited that we could
all
come online and share our experiences as true satanists. However, I
think
that we all as satanist should get more involved in our socialism
because It
may come a time when we won't be able to chat online Like we today. NO
Harm
intended, I'm Just being optimistic these days.


--- On Wed, 7/2I 9/09, moonshadow46@ <moonshadow46@ wrote:


From: moonshadow46@ <moonshadow46@
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Easy ways to awaken and rise the
Kundalini serpent?
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com
<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 5:49 PM






thank you, Joann, I think you are probably right--anyway I know I am
great with visualization and every other part of the meditations, I
just
expected to be more "overwhelmed" by the astral than I am. I suppose I
should consider myself lucky I have not run into any negative
entities...but
some talk of "popping" out of their body, etc. Perhaps for me it's just
more
subtle, I do see moving energy behind my eyes...purple and yellow
usually...thanks again! :)
--- In Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com, Joann Reeves <kosmos_9@.
wrote:

Moonshadow, it seems like you already have it in order,I can see
that
your guardian deamon is working with you, because how else would you
have
known to not accept the information robert bruce said about closing
your
chakra.that' s a huge "NO NO". Hey, I too have completed all the
beginners
power meditation methods and are moving on to the intermediate
meditation methods and it feels really regreat. I quess what i'm saying
is
keep on keeping on.

Hail Enki
Peace and love to HP Maxine
Hail Enki


--- On Sat, 7/25/09, moonshadow46@ ... <moonshadow46@ ... wrote:


From: moonshadow46@ ... <moonshadow46@ ...
Subject: [Advanced_Meditatio n] Re: Easy ways to awaken and rise
the
Kundalini serpent?
To: Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:12 PM






I have found an awesome way to open your chakras and allow energy
to
flow through them. On the JOS website while looking at ways to astral
project, Robert Bruce was mentioned. I Googled his name and found a
site
called "Treatise on Astral Travel." I have not tried his methods for
that
yet, but he did tell an interesting way to get energy flowing through
your
chakras. He said to visualize your "astral body" which is inside you,
and
using your astral hands, pull energy up from your feet, up your legs,
and
into your chakras. You do it for each chakra, one at a time--first
chakra,
then hands pull up more energy into 2nd chakra, etc. By the time you
get it
out your crown chakra, imagine energy flowing through your body, from
feet
to crown. You can actually feel it, it is very satisfying to do this!
Try it
more than once. he did say one thing I found to not work, however--he
said
to "close" your chakras afterwards and push the energy back down--WRONG
idea.
He
himself admitted this later in the treatise! I did it and felt
horrible, so I energized the chakras again and this time did not close
anything. You really have to ask Satan if something seems wrong, and I
should have. But bringing energy from your feet chakras up through the
crown
via the "astral hands" is awesome, I do it all the time now.....
--- In Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com, "lrail36" <lrail36@
wrote:

Know of any?




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means
fighting
me to protect his own."

"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means fighting
me to protect his own."

"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
Thanks, I will look at that book sometime. I think my purple color, which I see as blobs that contort like a lava lamp, might have to do with my third eye. But I've always been a little psychic... anyway, as far as the astral--Satan told me to relax and be patient...
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allen Walker <krystollsynth@... wrote:

That can possibly be true. The first layer is the wake up call, but not the
true wake up as most are very much enveloped in illusory reality of region
and time. Psychics who have seen auras from what I have read all saw
energy, though not all of them see it the same way. Some people perceive
only energy blobs, some see it as more detailed or as auras. Some don't so
much perceive it in the astral, but like actual reality, and some can just
perceive both and anything else at will. Here's an interesting book I have
in my collection that may give you a bit of food for thought. It is by a
mexican mystic called Duan Juan.Carlos Castaneda "The Art of Dreaming."
Even if it is in the new age section, it is probably one of the very few
books that is worth anything. These lines of books are the recollections of
one of the last mystics from a line of Toltecs.. this is not just another
new agey book full of fancilful theory, these are actual recollections.



On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:19 PM, moonshadow46@...
<[email protected]:



Thanks, Allen. So it varies according to your abilities and perceptions.
But I only see colors. Is that what you call the "first layer"? I do not see
entities, or landscapes, just color.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:

There are different layers of the astral. It isn't what you expected,
because the first layer for most (that also depends on location and a
number
of other associations) is full of illusions, and you will only see what
certain entities of power that control that astral space wish you to see.
If you've advanced enough in the astral, you may find certain barriers
that
seperate different realities. Past those barriers are the truer nature of
things in the astral (some call it the upper astral), or to put it more
accurately, realities that are outside the influence of that particular
astral matrix. The way your energetic body interacts with the different
astral matrixes also determines if you can be within that particular
astral
place and be subject to its influences, for example, how you perceive the
nature of things.



On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:02 PM, moonshadow46@
<moonshadow46@wrote:



I tried the method where you spin your chakras one at a time, then stop
it
and turn it to the left a bit--I guess to "loosen" the astral body so
ti can
go onto the astral plane. I wasn't successful with that. I read of
people
actually seeing things on the astral, but all I can see is shapeless
colors.
I do see purple and yellow mostly, I think I am seeing my aura b/c a
psychic
reader once told me she saw auras and mine were purple and yellow! I
don't
know about "the future of the internet" but I sure hope it continues
and
people can become educated...it will be a sad day for "freedom of
speech" if
that happens...but we can all put up flyers and stuff, to try to get
the
word out and make people more educated...
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com
<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com,
Joann Reeves <kosmos_9@ wrote:

Moonshadown, i'd like to here more of your experience with the astral
projection. How did u feel after you completed the beginners meditation
methods . I felt very empowered. I'm extremely excited that we could
all
come online and share our experiences as true satanists. However, I
think
that we all as satanist should get more involved in our socialism
because It
may come a time when we won't be able to chat online Like we today. NO
Harm
intended, I'm Just being optimistic these days.


--- On Wed, 7/2I 9/09, moonshadow46@ <moonshadow46@ wrote:


From: moonshadow46@ <moonshadow46@
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Easy ways to awaken and rise the
Kundalini serpent?
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com
<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 5:49 PM






thank you, Joann, I think you are probably right--anyway I know I am
great with visualization and every other part of the meditations, I
just
expected to be more "overwhelmed" by the astral than I am. I suppose I
should consider myself lucky I have not run into any negative
entities...but
some talk of "popping" out of their body, etc. Perhaps for me it's just
more
subtle, I do see moving energy behind my eyes...purple and yellow
usually...thanks again! :)
--- In Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com, Joann Reeves <kosmos_9@
wrote:

Moonshadow, it seems like you already have it in order,I can see
that
your guardian deamon is working with you, because how else would you
have
known to not accept the information robert bruce said about closing
your
chakra.that' s a huge "NO NO". Hey, I too have completed all the
beginners
power meditation methods and are moving on to the intermediate
meditation methods and it feels really regreat. I quess what i'm saying
is
keep on keeping on.

Hail Enki
Peace and love to HP Maxine
Hail Enki


--- On Sat, 7/25/09, moonshadow46@ ... <moonshadow46@ ... wrote:


From: moonshadow46@ ... <moonshadow46@ ...
Subject: [Advanced_Meditatio n] Re: Easy ways to awaken and rise
the
Kundalini serpent?
To: Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:12 PM






I have found an awesome way to open your chakras and allow energy
to
flow through them. On the JOS website while looking at ways to astral
project, Robert Bruce was mentioned. I Googled his name and found a
site
called "Treatise on Astral Travel." I have not tried his methods for
that
yet, but he did tell an interesting way to get energy flowing through
your
chakras. He said to visualize your "astral body" which is inside you,
and
using your astral hands, pull energy up from your feet, up your legs,
and
into your chakras. You do it for each chakra, one at a time--first
chakra,
then hands pull up more energy into 2nd chakra, etc. By the time you
get it
out your crown chakra, imagine energy flowing through your body, from
feet
to crown. You can actually feel it, it is very satisfying to do this!
Try it
more than once. he did say one thing I found to not work, however--he
said
to "close" your chakras afterwards and push the energy back down--WRONG
idea.
He
himself admitted this later in the treatise! I did it and felt
horrible, so I energized the chakras again and this time did not close
anything. You really have to ask Satan if something seems wrong, and I
should have. But bringing energy from your feet chakras up through the
crown
via the "astral hands" is awesome, I do it all the time now.....
--- In Advanced_Meditation @yahoogroups. com, "lrail36" <lrail36@
wrote:

Know of any?




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means
fighting
me to protect his own."

"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means fighting
me to protect his own."

"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
I have reasons to believe Loki is my Guardian Demon --or has a kind of strong connection with me. I need his Sigil but can't find it anywhere online.. Any Sister or Brother here who could lend me a hand in finding out?
 
Hail Satan forever!




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
loki=satan. we all have a strong connection to loki, as we all have a strong connection to satan.



To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: prideandglory666@...
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 15:24:53 -0700
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] The Sigil of Loki





I have reasons to believe Loki is my Guardian Demon --or has a kind of strong connection with me. I need his Sigil but can't find it anywhere online.. Any Sister or Brother here who could lend me a hand in finding out?

Hail Satan forever!

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