FancyMancy said:
NinRick said:
All I feel, say and do comes from my heart, you can not fathom this, and you probably never will.
Cool. I'll just go back to christianity, then, because I'm wasting my time here.
NinRick said:
You always try to look for connections to xianity, because of your past. This is a fact.
Yes, it is. People would also do the same, because christianity is still prevailing all over, in many places, including in media, which is a huge tool. Not to mention many people come from christianity, and then seeing "I'd destroy my Soul for Satan".
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
What Ninrick writes about is an internal condition of powerful love and loyalty to the Gods
So wiping out oneself in the Soul because of Satan's sake? Yeah, so blind faith, blind love. Nah, I think I'll pass on that, thanks.
What you write has to do with common sense, which of course, is applied on existence for functional reasons.
As NinRick said, I do, very obviously, refer back to christianity. I thought I have been seeing some thinking parallels with christianity. By the way, a member before said something in reply to me; I wasn't clear in my reply to them so they misunderstood what I meant, and they said if you, HPHC, say something, then I, FancyMancy, would just accept it because you said it. I haven't forgot that. I have to refute it and I think the opportunity to refute it is now - as a former christian I cannot not refer things back to christianity; I am very much opposed to it, so I think that I think/feel/believe it is perhaps my duty to oppose it vocally (or textually, of course), that I am incapable of not referring things back to christianity. 'Each to their own' - fine, I suppose - but I would not, even if Satan needed a 'sake', destroy my own existence. That rings the bell of
those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. No, I am
of course not saying that Satan is absurd nor the things He says are. It reminded me of that - and to say "I would kill my Soul if need-be"... is supposed to be understanding Satan, whereas me, lowly old me, who cannot fathom Him and "probably never will", says, "Nope! Am not gunna commit Soul death, thanks!" is not understanding Him and "probably never will"?!
Call me a blasphemer, a sacreligious, pious cunt, whatever... I would not. We talk all the time about empowering, advancing, etc. ourselves and others, then we have... that. If, perhaps, it was put into poem form, then it
MIGHT be deemed acceptable to say it and not be literal, (but it would still dig deeply into the unconscious) but I, personally, am way too cynical about such things. "I wouldn't ACTUALLY commit Soul suicide. Herp-a-derp-icide."
Based on this, plus other things which have been noticeable and have been building-up over time but with this being like the spur, I have been questioning my common sense, intelligence, etc... It sounds depressing, so I won't go on, except to say -
I'm glad you said "sense". For a while I've been doubting myself, thinking I'm,
- more an idiot
- foolish
- less clever
- whatever
and it has been getting on top of me. (I intend to make a quick thread about this, to remedy it. I also don't know if I am giving helpful advice, or making things worse.)
Jack said:
I will continue to play devil's advocate, dick, troll, whatever. So why not know, and then do, the eradication of the jew, reptillians, etc. in as swift a time as possible? Why not in one fell swoop? I think it's been said Satan can't be everywhere at once, He might have multiple consciousnesses or a very expanded consciousness but is more busy here or more busy there, cant be spreading too thinly. Regardless, the need to withdraw tells me He doesn't know everything and He is not all-powerful. He is not as "old" as the Universe, but He seems to be the first of His abilities... ever...
Maybe I should just leave this here. I "probably never will" understand, so meh.
1) Your caught in every fucking detail, be it informative or even linguistic details... which is annoying and not authentic.
2) You said that you oppose xianity, and you can not refer back to it. Yet, on multiple occasions you are drawing parallels to xianity. Let me tell you, you are very deep into xianity still, on a subconscious level.
You got out of it, but xianity didn't get out of you.
3) You don't understand me, how I feel. I was not telling you that you don't understand Satan, I was talking about me. But yes, you don't understand Satan, but same goes for me. Satan is unfathomable for us.
You can not even understand why I feel the way I do. Nobody expects you to feel the same, but you can not even fathom how a proud, free, strong human can feel this, because they decide to.
4) Satan is literally omipresent. What is so hard to understand here?
Are you blocking this basic fact, because this is too similar to xianity?
5) I just expressed what I feel, and my approach to Satanism, what you do and feel is your own business.
Altho, I am pretty sure you don't advance very fast, as your mindset shows this. With understanding and advancement your beliefes and mindset shape and change. You are probably stuck, and this for quite a while.
There is an obvious correlation between being close to Satan and the Gods, and personal advancement, in all areas of life.
It is only natural, that the Gods appreciate it when their followers seek them and love them to the fullest.
Whenever I praise Satan and the Gods, I feel ecstasy. Idk if you have reached this level, where you can feel this from meditation, the Gods, your own Soul and Energy. It literally feels like being high on drugs. The bliss of the upper chakra system is beautiful.
When was the last time you opened something new in your soul? Do you know anything about alchemy that is not on the JoS? Or do you depend fully on Humans for advancement? If Cobra were to leave, would you stop advancing? Wouldn't you be able to gather new spiritual understanding and knowledge for your evolution? Or do you need Cobra and Maxine to serve everything on a silver plate to you? Inner understanding, and learning from the Gods directly is much more valuable than getting easy knowledge from Humans, as there is no understanding. This is probably also partially the reason, why Cobra and Maxine are so exalted.
- They are DIRECT disciples of Satan. (Not only on "paper" but in a very practical way).
Depending on Satan and the Gods, is the closest thing to independence there is.
Satan and the Demons, are HERE! For Fucks Sake, they are literally here, their influence and consciousness is present at all times, even with no body around, reach the fuck out to them.
Satan will never demand something extreme from me, I know it. However, if this was really needed, I would commit for Satan's sake.
- So yes, you clearly can not understand me, or even why I feel the way I do. And probably never will. And since it pissed you so much, yes, you can also not understand Satan. But no human can understand him, only to a certain degree.
Why has Satan created mankind? Why do you exist?
Why are you "you"? Who are you?
Who do you want to become? Why are you advancing?
Think about it for yourself.
Plus Mancy, you asked Jack "why Satan doesn't destroy the Jews and safes us, if he really is all-powerful".
This is xianity speaking out of you again, that "being safed" thing.
You should know, that everyone safes their own soul, be it we individually, or humanity as a whole. Think about it, why do you believe this is so? Never thought of that?
Don't post your answer tho, it is just for yourself and own understanding. This has a very important meaning and message.
You probably think that Satan could just let the Jews go away by clapping his hands right?
He could just clap his hands, and let his military come to earth and take the jews. The result would be the same, and he has the capabilty of doing so.
Xianity used old ancient religions, and the belifes and feelings of the old pagan people of Satan to enslave them.
Xianity used paganism and corrupted it.
Now you draw parallels from pagansim/Satanism to Xianity. You are very confused and probably scared.
Satan accepts you for who you are, don't be afraid of him.
I lay my life in Satan's hands, and I don't have a single doubt.
My body, my mind and soul belong to Satan, and I am always full open for him. I even programmed my mind to let Satan inside me openly, not to feel any resistance, but to actually ask for this. Satan would still be reading you (symbolically being inside you), but this way you are coping with it much better, and actually asking for it.
I am acting in Satan's interest, I am seeking Satan and Satan is in me - I am part of Satan. With all my strenghts and weaknesses, but I am overcoming them step by step. There is no need to be ashamed to show yourself, your weaknesses and dark parts, Satan understands and will lead you towards betterment.
Satan doesn't push himself to people, but he is always there for you. Even when no one can help you (or want to help you), Satan helps. All you need to do is to approach Father in respect and honesty. That's all.
While the xian "god" is fake, Satan is very real and all-powerful. I have no other words to express his exalted being, and there is really no need to use any different word for describing what he is.
Our all-mighty Lord Satan.
Jack experienced Satan and understood the essence of Satanism, so he decided to commit fully. This is why he advances.
I respect him for being so commited to this path.
You are low because you are not close to Satan, and you are not close to Satan because you are low.
Being close to Satan is a positive feedback loop, that keeps pushing you forward, at unreal speeds.
Anyone who claims something else, is either lying or is not understanding simple correlations.
We are not all equal, and neither is our relationship to Satan equal, or how the Gods treat us. But this boils down to the individual behaviour and approach of people.
To reply to the OP to his question: "Do you worship Satan the way he expects?"
Satan respects individuality, and understands us humans, why we are the way we are, our circumstances, our hearts and everything that makes us. As well as where we are going.
I believe based on my experience with Satan, that Satan only expects from us to be honest and respectful to him, when we approach him. Satan leads the path to personal evolution, understanding, knowledge and power, on all levels.
Does this mean when Satan elevated me, made me understanding, knowledgable and powerful on all levels, that I should not bow in front of him? No.
I say, for this very reason I bow to him. And for so many more.
What I also believe is that Satan respects those who work for him, follow his goals and allign their WIll with Satan's will - Satan takes those people serious, and helps gives them much attention, which help those people to advance on all levels.
This is a positive feedback loop.
Never underestimate how caring and understanding Satan is, don't get confused.
You do not understand Satan, but Satan does understand you and accepts you, on all levels.