Crowned princes of hell

[Golden Garden Fairy]

Hi, does anyone know if lilith had a Sumerian name?

Also , does anyone know the direction of all the four crowned prices of hell? It’s says south and east for satan.

 

[Ælberiigor]

@Golden Garden Fairy
I don't know the Sumerian name of Lilith

As you said, His directions are South and East
For rituals, the Four Princes directions are :
Satan at East, Beelzebud at North, Astaroth at West and Azazel at South

 

[Golden Garden Fairy]

Seems Ereshkigal is goddess of the underworld.

I am a bit confused about Enlil/beelzebud though. The stories about him going against enki/lucifer also feel like the could be very true. That we were created as slaves, but enki wants us to evolve. What should I read to convince me that Enlil is on our side?

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

Seems Ereshkigal is goddess of the underworld.

I am a bit confused about Enlil/beelzebud though. The stories about him going against enki/lucifer also feel like the could be very true. That we were created as slaves, but enki wants us to evolve. What should I read to convince me that Enlil is on our side?

These stories are based on misinterpreted spiritual allegories by people who were basically ignorant regarding allegory or anything of spiritual nature trying to interpret the writings of the ancients regarding the Gods.

Any so called conflict between them, is allegory, as there never is any literal conflict between the Gods. As for being created as slaves, when you know even a tiny inkling of Truth about the Gods, you can see how this "theory" is complete retardation, as no Gods are even in need of slaves, let alone something as useless as a human slave who cannot even fathom 1% of their existence.

Many people read the weird annunaki sci-fi stories and theories that come from that, and believe it to be true because people have not an inkling of understanding to the Gods when they first learn about Satan, Baalzebul (Enki, Enlil), the mind naturally gravitates towards what it can grasp, so because the mind is on a lower state of openness to knowledge and is lacking in knowledge, the mind will make errant conclusions based on the ignorant perception you have at the time.

With a little bit of examining of reality, and doing your initial spiritual work to open your soul, connect to the Gods to receive Knowledge from them, these sorts of perceptions fall away very quickly as you can see they could not be further from the Truth.

 

[Golden Garden Fairy]

Or children that do work, not slaves !

 

[Golden Garden Fairy]

These stories are based on misinterpreted spiritual allegories by people who were basically ignorant regarding allegory or anything of spiritual nature trying to interpret the writings of the ancients regarding the Gods.

Any so called conflict between them, is allegory, as there never is any literal conflict between the Gods. As for being created as slaves, when you know even a tiny inkling of Truth about the Gods, you can see how this "theory" is complete retardation, as no Gods are even in need of slaves, let alone something as useless as a human slave who cannot even fathom 1% of their existence.

Many people read the weird annunaki sci-fi stories and theories that come from that, and believe it to be true because people have not an inkling of understanding to the Gods when they first learn about Satan, Baalzebul (Enki, Enlil), the mind naturally gravitates towards what it can grasp, so because the mind is on a lower state of openness to knowledge and is lacking in knowledge, the mind will make errant conclusions based on the ignorant perception you have at the time.

With a little bit of examining of reality, and doing your initial spiritual work to open your soul, connect to the Gods to receive Knowledge from them, these sorts of perceptions fall away very quickly as you can see they could not be further from the Truth.

But even the jos site talks about negative Nordic aliens. A god would be a being in a higher dimension to us.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

But even the jos site talks about negative Nordic aliens. A god would be a being in a higher dimension to us.

And that is exactly where they are. This has been gone over a lot recently.

Refer here to my earlier answer on this, and about "enemy Nordics" in general: https://ancient-forums.com/index.ph...ng-into-other-worlds.59582/page-2#post-264072

What is said by HPHC about Enki and Anu is the same thing as this allegory about Enki and Enlil.

 

[Havoc]

Or children that do work, not slaves !

Historical children were had to do work and expanded the family, the change from children being assets and valued to a burden/responsibly is quite recent actually so this is probably the case.

I do believe selfish parents are actually better for children since they raise individuals that are useful in some ways and thinking of others, the totally selfless parent that serves their children raises spoiled brats. I’m not arguing children should work 12 hours in the mines but being a part of a business and doing the housework would be better then school, a concept invented by jews to make children ready to work in offices.

 

[Golden Garden Fairy]

Historical children were had to do work and expanded the family, the change from children being assets and valued to a burden/responsibly is quite recent actually so this is probably the case.

I do believe selfish parents are actually better for children since they raise individuals that are useful in some ways and thinking of others, the totally selfless parent that serves their children raises spoiled brats. I’m not arguing children should work 12 hours in the mines but being a part of a business and doing the housework would be better then school, a concept invented by jews to make children ready to work in offices.

Yes , that is a great perspective. Thank you

 

[Henu the Great]

a concept invented by jews to make children ready to work in offices.

What am I even reading. Jews have invented absolutely nothing, especially not schooling. And if you have a good alternative idea of how to make people ready to run society I am all ears.

 

[Havoc]

What am I even reading. Jews have invented absolutely nothing, especially not schooling. And if you have a good alternative idea of how to make people ready to run society I am all ears.

I’m talking specifically about the modern compulsively educational system, the word schooling in this context means that.

I don’t have any problem with classical education, which was reserved for the elite or gifted children, when schooling cost money a family would often have to make a choice of who if any of their children got it so for practical reasons they only sent their smartest children to get it, this ensured a higher quality of people getting an education as well as making any diploma received a vary prestigious thing.

Teachers used to often be the cream of the crop of society paid well for their vaunted experience, not a job that is basically a welfare position, even if some specific teachers may take it seriously they are still young and inexperienced in life, you used to have to actually have an illustrious career beforehand to be a teacher.

So the people running society would receive an education for smart children rather then an education for the lowest common denominator, the current system we have now is created on the assumption that all humans are equal which is totally false, some children should learn how to be professional chiefs form their parents for example rather then wasting the time of teachers and the other students.

 

[Henu the Great]

I’m talking specifically about the modern compulsively educational system, the word schooling in this context means that.

Okay. You wanted to say how jews have corrupted, or in other words, negatively influenced our collective path where institutions along with pretty much everything else are in decay.

I don’t have any problem with classical education, which was reserved for the elite or gifted children, when schooling cost money a family would often have to make a choice of who if any of their children got it so for practical reasons they only sent their smartest children to get it, this ensured a higher quality of people getting an education as well as making any diploma received a vary prestigious thing.

Bygones are bygones. We need educated people to do things, not just a chosen few.

Teachers used to often be the cream of the crop of society paid well for their vaunted experience, not a job that is basically a welfare position, even if some specific teachers may take it seriously they are still young and inexperienced in life, you used to have to actually have an illustrious career beforehand to be a teacher.

Yes, and this will change as the influence of the enemy wanes more and more.

So the people running society would receive an education for smart children rather then an education for the lowest common denominator, the current system we have now is created on the assumption that all humans are equal which is totally false, some children should learn how to be professional chiefs form their parents for example rather then wasting the time of teachers and the other students.

When I said "run a society" I referred to people who provide services, work in manufacturing, do research, and so forth, that is, run a society, not lead a society.

But you did not provide any real alternative. You simply argued how things were better in the past. Yes, sure, in many ways they were. However, we move forward and deal with issues in current times. Times change and so do methods.

 

[Havoc]

Okay. You wanted to say how jews have corrupted, or in other words, negatively influenced our collective path where institutions along with pretty much everything else are in decay.


Bygones are bygones. We need educated people to do things, not just a chosen few.



Yes, and this will change as the influence of the enemy wanes more and more.


When I said "run a society" I referred to people who provide services, work in manufacturing, do research, and so forth, that is, run a society, not lead a society.

But you did not provide any real alternative. You simply argued how things were better in the past. Yes, sure, in many ways they were. However, we move forward and deal with issues in current times. Times change and so do methods.

The alternative would be parents owning their own businesses and having their children as apprentices, gifted children or older people who would like to do something else would still be able to get an education and do something outside of the family business. Business could also take on apprentices if someone is born to parents without a profession to pass on.

What I’m talking about is socialism, socializing the means of production so that goods and services are produced families rather then businesses.

Everyone having their own personal equity in the means of production is what I consider socialism. I to clarify something though it is not equality or everything owning everything equally the social in socialism does not refer to be public sector it refers to citizens of the nation itself, a nation being a people and not a country.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Historical children were had to do work and expanded the family, the change from children being assets and valued to a burden/responsibly is quite recent actually so this is probably the case.

I do believe selfish parents are actually better for children since they raise individuals that are useful in some ways and thinking of others, the totally selfless parent that serves their children raises spoiled brats. I’m not arguing children should work 12 hours in the mines but being a part of a business and doing the housework would be better then school, a concept invented by jews to make children ready to work in offices.

Children are not working class and should never be, selfish parents are not the way to be either.

Your way of thinking is very flawed and might be caused by hangups or trauma.

Some children especially those with Capricorn influences have shit unreliable fathers and take matters into their own hands. Though, this is not for everyone nor it is the normal state of a child. This person can turn hardship to power, another child with Pisces or Cancer influences can just turn to drugs, escapism, unreliability, then death or overdosing.

The Capricorn child that took matters into their own hands even after turning their situation around will still have to deal with serious trauma, mental/emotional wounds, being cruel, and complex ptsd because that’s not the way for a child to be, ever.

Just like how children are just not sexually mature and pedophilia is a crime, child labor is a crime as well.

If you mean introduce some discipline and responsibility that’s okay up to a limit, just not in the way you mentioned.

The parents are the primary caretakers, role model, and sense of security to a child. Having unreliable, selfish parents can mean serious problems for a kid, psychologically and emotionally.

Don’t mention history as the past is really shit. Inquisition, dark ages, elitism, vast ignorance, sex slavery, slavery in general, and pedophilia are a very “historical” and existing part of history, doesn’t mean it's right. We look forward to the future, the Aquarius.

 

[Havoc]

Children are not working class and should never be, selfish parents are not the way to be either.

Your way of thinking is very flawed and might be caused by hangups or trauma.

Some children especially those with Capricorn influences have shit unreliable fathers and take matters into their own hands. Though, this is not for everyone nor it is the normal state of a child. This person can turn hardship to power, another child with Pisces or Cancer influences can just turn to drugs, escapism, unreliability, then death or overdosing.

The Capricorn child that took matters into their own hands even after turning their situation around will still have to deal with serious trauma, mental/emotional wounds, being cruel, and complex ptsd because that’s not the way for a child to be, ever.

Just like how children are just not sexually mature and pedophilia is a crime, child labor is a crime as well.

If you mean introduce some discipline and responsibility that’s okay up to a limit, just not in the way you mentioned.

The parents are the primary caretakers, role model, and sense of security to a child. Having unreliable, selfish parents can mean serious problems for a kid, psychologically and emotionally.

Don’t mention history as the past is really shit. Inquisition, dark ages, elitism, vast ignorance, sex slavery, slavery in general, and pedophilia are a very “historical” and existing part of history, doesn’t mean it's right. We look forward to the future, the Aquarius.

I reject the narrative that the past and our traditional way of life was horrible, and the modern age is one of enlightenment and progress, The xtan dark age was very bad but we are at its zenith and the future will be a return to the eternal natural way. The past before the jews came along was not a bad time.

There is a line between abuse and teaching your child skills and responsibility, I'm not advocating for them being slaves who never get to play or read books but some work is not the end of the world, at most 4 hours a day with their parents and 2 hours learning things like reading math and history, that might be better than 8 hours a day at school with homework, You know that more hours doesn't more learning and if they had shorter classes then they might absorb more and pay attention. They would also be given money and this would teach them about the value of work.

The idea that we cannot have traditional parenting like this because some people have had very bad parents is actually ironically indictive of unresolved trauma and hangups with the father.

 

[Golden Garden Fairy]

Children are not working class and should never be, selfish parents are not the way to be either.

Your way of thinking is very flawed and might be caused by hangups or trauma.

Some children especially those with Capricorn influences have shit unreliable fathers and take matters into their own hands. Though, this is not for everyone nor it is the normal state of a child. This person can turn hardship to power, another child with Pisces or Cancer influences can just turn to drugs, escapism, unreliability, then death or overdosing.

The Capricorn child that took matters into their own hands even after turning their situation around will still have to deal with serious trauma, mental/emotional wounds, being cruel, and complex ptsd because that’s not the way for a child to be, ever.

Just like how children are just not sexually mature and pedophilia is a crime, child labor is a crime as well.

If you mean introduce some discipline and responsibility that’s okay up to a limit, just not in the way you mentioned.

The parents are the primary caretakers, role model, and sense of security to a child. Having unreliable, selfish parents can mean serious problems for a kid, psychologically and emotionally.

Don’t mention history as the past is really shit. Inquisition, dark ages, elitism, vast ignorance, sex slavery, slavery in general, and pedophilia are a very “historical” and existing part of history, doesn’t mean it's right. We look forward to the future, the Aquarius.

Thanks for the astrological insights. Do you have any idea how we come into being born. Like for instance, you said a Capricorn is likely to have a absent father. Then that father would have to conceive a child so that the child would be born in the house of Capricorn. How is it all divinely orchestrated? Especially when we are supposed to have lessons to learn and soul contracts between one another? It’s Easier to believe that the soul isn’t eternal and displates after death, but that feels quite miserable, in comparison to incomprehensible and magically Devine destiny or fate.

also the rising sign, has such a small window and has such a large effect on our personality. I guess that one is just like the wild card in our astrological make up.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

I reject the narrative that the past and our traditional way of life was horrible, and the modern age is one of enlightenment and progress, The xtan dark age was very bad but we are at its zenith and the future will be a return to the eternal natural way. The past before the jews came along was not a bad time.

There is a line between abuse and teaching your child skills and responsibility, I'm not advocating for them being slaves who never get to play or read books but some work is not the end of the world, at most 4 hours a day with their parents and 2 hours learning things like reading math and history, that might be better than 8 hours a day at school with homework, You know that more hours doesn't more learning and if they had shorter classes then they might absorb more and pay attention. They would also be given money and this would teach them about the value of work.

The idea that we cannot have traditional parenting like this because some people have had very bad parents is actually ironically indictive of unresolved trauma and hangups with the father.

You’re the one that mentioned having “selfish” parents is good.

Apprenticeship, learning, doing some work is a part of the education process and growing a child which should be added in successful education or home-schooling programs.

What do you think the “past” and “traditionalism” is? The past was really shit that’s really undeniable. The only good part of recent history we had were the golden ages which was thousands of years ago under Sumerian, Assyrian, Egyptian, and Greek rule.

You just long for “traditionalism” because modern times are really shit for families and nature and also the woke plague and LGBTQ+ that we have right now. Xians also long for so called “traditional” values and the good old xian days.

I only see that “traditional” recent history was awful only good points would be the family unit or something, still if you were a Satanist back then you would stick out like a sore thumb, you’d never fit in their xian values, that would lead you to be “exiled” and hated.

The modern age IS of enlightenment and progress the only reason the Joy of Satan exists as an organization is because of that enlightenment and progress. This is the Age of Aquarius, by definition, it’s about enlightenment and progress. The only reason we’re only seeing the worst of this are the jews in power, which is ending.

 

[Golden Garden Fairy]

So the Aquarius age is about enlightenment and enlightened technology?

But is the new age the Aquarius age? Or is that something else

 

[Golden Garden Fairy]

You’re the one that mentioned having “selfish” parents is good.

Apprenticeship, learning, doing some work is a part of the education process and growing a child which should be added in successful education or home-schooling programs.

What do you think the “past” and “traditionalism” is? The past was really shit that’s really undeniable. The only good part of recent history we had were the golden ages which was thousands of years ago under Sumerian, Assyrian, Egyptian, and Greek rule.

You just long for “traditionalism” because modern times are really shit for families and nature and also the woke plague and LGBTQ+ that we have right now. Xians also long for so called “traditional” values and the good old xian days.

I only see that “traditional” recent history was awful only good points would be the family unit or something, still if you were a Satanist back then you would stick out like a sore thumb, you’d never fit in their xian values, that would lead you to be “exiled” and hated.

The modern age IS of enlightenment and progress the only reason the Joy of Satan exists as an organization is because of that enlightenment and progress. This is the Age of Aquarius, by definition, it’s about enlightenment and progress. The only reason we’re only seeing the worst of this are the jews in power, which is ending.

And the new age is preferable to the dark ages, even though the new age has a lot of incorrect teachings

 

[MercuryWisdom]

So the Aquarius age is about enlightenment and enlightened technology?

But is the new age the Aquarius age? Or is that something else

Yes, under Satan’s guidance it will be. We’re just starting age of Aquarius, yes.