Collecting Ideas for a training method

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[I just recently found out that a group for advanced satanists exists, so this is my first post here. A big hello to all of you!]

Hey everyone,

I was actually wondering about this for a long time already, so today I decided I would ask.
I am searching for a method to train a specific ability of the mind (very specific, lol). For those of you who have watched the anime "Elfen Lied", I want to develop a power similar to the "vectors" in this anime.
Now a general explanation for those who havent seen it:
"Vectors" as described in the anime are not the vectors you might know from math, they are the main offense and defense weapon of the diclonius species. They basically look like invisible arms and have a telekinetic-like impact on things they touch. They are also extendable in range. Also, the vibration frequency of these vectors can be changed at will by the user. A little example - A vectors on the lowest frequency is basically "inactive". You could say that it doesnt even exist, or that its just lying on the ground. In this frequency the vector(s) just passes through any object without anything happening.
Then there is a "middle" vibration frequency, at which the vector(s) interact with objects just like a physical arm/hand would (For example opening and closing a door).
Then at the highest frequency the vectors vibrate so strongly that they clean-cut through objects (for example cutting a piece of paper in half).

I am searching for a method to properly train and develop this - to the point where I can either sense or (if possible) even see my vectors (maybe like I would see auras etc.).
Another thing to think about is wheter those vectors should come "out of my body" or out of the ground/just float in the air, and how they can affect me (levitation by pushing myself up with the vectors). I thought quite a lot about this.

Now as a little "disclaimer" :
I am not delusional, I know damn well that things like opening/closing a door or even cutting a paper in half with this will more than likely need years and years of daily training, but I am serious about this, so please take my question seriously aswell.


Thanks for reading my long-ass text and please give me any intel you have on this, as I seriously want to develop a power like this. I am looking forward to hearing your opinions/suggestions.

-Shael

 

[babyb00m]

"Vectors" do not exist. Supposed "powers" you see in anime are made up for the purpose of entertainment. Powers you see in anime are not an accurate representation of reality. For example, if you ate nails like Gajeel from Fairy Tail so you could perform an iron dragon roar attack, you would perforate your stomach and require emergency surgery to save your life.

The human mind is extremely powerful and whatever you focus on and believe, your mind works to make into reality. If you convince yourself you are making "vectors" and keep pouring energy into those "vectors," you will end up making thoughtforms that behave like "vectors." You will pour energy into those thoughtforms to try and give them telekinetic powers rather than empowering your own soul and your own telekinetic abilities. As soon as you stop feeding the thoughtforms energy, they will wither.


The goal of Satanism is spiritual perfection and physical immortality as well as spiritual warfare to free this planet from the enemy. You should focus on empowering your own soul and developing abilities that will stay with you forever.

 

[Shael1]

First off, thanks for responding. I know that the powers in anime pretty often are far from reality - and overexaggerating (explosions, big visible enerty fountains etc.). But I still don't think that attaining vectors(without the use of thoughtforms) would be impossible. An example for this would be the wings of the soul. They are the kind of body-like extension that the vectors would be, aswell. All that would be needed would be my aura forming these vectors and (when strong enough) telekinetically influencing objects. Then I would be able to see my vector(s), aswell.My problem is how I could train this. And thanks to your comment I already now know that I have to avoid accidentally creating thoughtforms.However, I still don't know of a training method to attain this. So please don't just write vectors off as an unrealistic power, and help me find a way to train it. I really don't care if it takes several (dozens) of years to attain.
-Shael

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 4:34, johnson_akemi@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   "Vectors" do not exist. Supposed "powers" you see in anime are made up for the purpose of entertainment. Powers you see in anime are not an accurate representation of reality. For example, if you ate nails like Gajeel from Fairy Tail so you could perform an iron dragon roar attack, you would perforate your stomach and require emergency surgery to save your life.

The human mind is extremely powerful and whatever you focus on and believe, your mind works to make into reality. If you convince yourself you are making "vectors" and keep pouring energy into those "vectors," you will end up making thoughtforms that behave like "vectors." You will pour energy into those thoughtforms to try and give them telekinetic powers rather than empowering your own soul and your own telekinetic abilities. As soon as you stop feeding the thoughtforms energy, they will wither.


The goal of Satanism is spiritual perfection and physical immortality as well as spiritual warfare to free this planet from the enemy. You should focus on empowering your own soul and developing abilities that will stay with you forever.

 

[babyb00m]

The wings of the soul are a literal part of your soul as are your aura and light body. They are components of your soul just as your arms and legs are components of your physical body. A "vector" would be a mass of energy directed to do something, such as open a door. That is exactly what a thoughtform is, a mass of energy programmed to do something.

Making "vectors" does not advance your soul in any way as you will be pouring massive amounts of energy into making "vectors" rather than pouring that energy into empowering your soul. People are trained to hate themselves and think video games, anime, celebrities, etc. are better. When people are new to meditation, they suddenly get excited thinking they can be like that guy from their favorite show or video game because of that conditioning. They think that becoming that guy will make them so much happier and make their lives so much more awesome. Instead of trying to bash yourself into becoming someone you are not because you do not like who you are, cultivate yourself.

Satan and Self-Love, Identity
http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic17307.html  

 

[Shael1]

I know what you are trying to say, but I am not "new" to satanism. The phase (yeah I actually had that) where I wanted to be someone else is long over. I am in a state where I am starting to know, understand and love myself like I am. 
The feeling towards the vectors is different from one of those "early-phases". The only thing I got form the anime was the theory of the vectors themselves, nothing else. It feels as though I would have had similar powers in a past life, and now I have the urge to re-attain them.  As I already said in my previous reply, if my aura would form those vectors then I wouldn't be "pouring" energy into something like a thoughtform. It would basically be advancing myself, because I am strengthening and using my aura.It's somewhat like basic telekinesis, just in a different way of visualizing (and I really do want to visualize it this way because I have a good feeling about it from previous lives, as stated above). The problem here is how I train this, which was my original question.  
-Shael 

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 21:01, johnson_akemi@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   The wings of the soul are a literal part of your soul as are your aura and light body. They are components of your soul just as your arms and legs are components of your physical body. A "vector" would be a mass of energy directed to do something, such as open a door. That is exactly what a thoughtform is, a mass of energy programmed to do something.

Making "vectors" does not advance your soul in any way as you will be pouring massive amounts of energy into making "vectors" rather than pouring that energy into empowering your soul. People are trained to hate themselves and think video games, anime, celebrities, etc. are better. When people are new to meditation, they suddenly get excited thinking they can be like that guy from their favorite show or video game because of that conditioning. They think that becoming that guy will make them so much happier and make their lives so much more awesome. Instead of trying to bash yourself into becoming someone you are not because you do not like who you are, cultivate yourself.

Satan and Self-Love, Identity
http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic17307.html  

 

[babyb00m]

If you are using your aura to influence something, then you are doing just that: using your aura to influence something. Your aura can be used to influence people, electronic devices, and a lot of other things. For example, if there is a jerk in line at the store, you can expand your aura and the jerk will definitely feel that. You can fill your aura with golden-white energy and affirm that your aura is making a positive impression on everyone you meet. You can also use your aura to influence electronic devices. Some people accidentally discover this ability as they meditate and become more powerful. They find that they make computers malfunction, light bulbs blow out, etc. and have to program their aura to not influence electronic devices unless they want it to.


If you want to use your aura to influence things, you will need to be very familiar with directing and manipulating energy.

Directing Energy Meditation
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... nergy.html 
You will need to be able to focus with unbroken concentrations for extended periods of time for any advanced meditation. Frequent lapses in focus will seriously undermine your efforts at developing advanced psychic powers.

Void Meditation
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ation.html 
Flame Meditation
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ation.html 
Also, on some situations it can be more effective to use energy from your hands and use your palm chakras to influence an object. Having strong hand chakras makes it easier to manipulate objects that way.

Hand Chakra Meditaiton
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... akras.html  
When it comes to advanced meditations, what a person experiences is extremely individual. Some people prefer to see energy wile others prefer to feel energy. Pay attention to how something feels. If something feels uncomfortable or negative, stop. If something feels positive or does not feel negative, you are fine. 

Also, build a very strong aura of protection. We are literally warriors behind enemy lines and there are millions of things that can ruin your life or make your life very difficult to where you will have little time for meditation.

You can use SURYAE, ALGIZ, BERKANO, SOWILO (SAULO is the more powerful version), SATANAS, solar energy, or some other method to strengthen your aura of protection. I recommend you use all of the above if you can. A very strong aura of protection will make your life much easier as you will be protected against bad luck, accidents, disease, horrible people, physical or psychic attack, and other misfortune.   How to Clean Your Aura http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... aning.html   Aura of Protection http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ction.html   Meditation for Protection http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic10007.html   The Runic Kabalah PDF and Audio Mp3s http://dawn666blacksun.angelfire.com/Audio_Mp3s.htm   Explanation of the More Powerful Version of the Runes http://josministries.prophpbb.com/post745.html   You can also absorb energy from the sun or visualize yourself in a golden aura and affirm 108 times “I am always safe, secure, protected, and healthy in every way.” The protection working can be done multiple times a day.

How to Obliterate Your Saturn
http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic15507.html  


And, participate in our reverse torah rituals. We are in a war here and need to do what we can for our creator, Satan.

  Reverse Torah Rituals http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/pixie66 ... ituals.htm  

 

[Shael1]

Thank you for the detailed response. I will be sure to try out the meditations you posted. Also, I have discovered a training method for me thanks to you. It consists of me consciously visualizing my aura (about 2 meters in size from me from all angles) as bright yellow-gold for the whole day (/as long as I can). I read that thoughts are power, therefore my aura (and my visualization, as a by-product) should get significantly stronger with this exercise. I have been doing it for the last 2 hours with a (very) slight headache due to the concentration. I am planning on doing it until about 6 PM, but I will stop if I start to feel significantly bad from it.If you see any problem with this practice-method then please let me know. Anyways, thanks for helping me out. 
-Shael

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 19:46, johnson_akemi@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   If you are using your aura to influence something, then you are doing just that: using your aura to influence something. Your aura can be used to influence people, electronic devices, and a lot of other things. For example, if there is a jerk in line at the store, you can expand your aura and the jerk will definitely feel that. You can fill your aura with golden-white energy and affirm that your aura is making a positive impression on everyone you meet. You can also use your aura to influence electronic devices. Some people accidentally discover this ability as they meditate and become more powerful. They find that they make computers malfunction, light bulbs blow out, etc. and have to program their aura to not influence electronic devices unless they want it to.


If you want to use your aura to influence things, you will need to be very familiar with directing and manipulating energy.

Directing Energy Meditation
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... nergy.html 
You will need to be able to focus with unbroken concentrations for extended periods of time for any advanced meditation. Frequent lapses in focus will seriously undermine your efforts at developing advanced psychic powers.

Void Meditation
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ation.html 
Flame Meditation
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ation.html 
Also, on some situations it can be more effective to use energy from your hands and use your palm chakras to influence an object. Having strong hand chakras makes it easier to manipulate objects that way.

Hand Chakra Meditaiton
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... akras.html  
When it comes to advanced meditations, what a person experiences is extremely individual. Some people prefer to see energy wile others prefer to feel energy. Pay attention to how something feels. If something feels uncomfortable or negative, stop. If something feels positive or does not feel negative, you are fine. 

Also, build a very strong aura of protection. We are literally warriors behind enemy lines and there are millions of things that can ruin your life or make your life very difficult to where you will have little time for meditation.

You can use SURYAE, ALGIZ, BERKANO, SOWILO (SAULO is the more powerful version), SATANAS, solar energy, or some other method to strengthen your aura of protection. I recommend you use all of the above if you can. A very strong aura of protection will make your life much easier as you will be protected against bad luck, accidents, disease, horrible people, physical or psychic attack, and other misfortune.   How to Clean Your Aura http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... aning.html   Aura of Protection http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ction.html   Meditation for Protection http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic10007.html   The Runic Kabalah PDF and Audio Mp3s http://dawn666blacksun.angelfire.com/Audio_Mp3s.htm   Explanation of the More Powerful Version of the Runes http://josministries.prophpbb.com/post745.html   You can also absorb energy from the sun or visualize yourself in a golden aura and affirm 108 times “I am always safe, secure, protected, and healthy in every way.” The protection working can be done multiple times a day.

How to Obliterate Your Saturn
http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic15507.html  


And, participate in our reverse torah rituals. We are in a war here and need to do what we can for our creator, Satan.

  Reverse Torah Rituals http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/pixie66 ... ituals.htm  

 

[Anonymous]

My only problem I see with that is it'll wear you out quite a bit. I'd recommend doing a MAXIMUM of an hour a day for the first little while. Then you can gauge that after you start to get stronger 

On Dec 15, 2016, at 02:26, Shael shael666@... [Advanced_Meditation] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

  Thank you for the detailed response. I will be sure to try out the meditations you posted. Also, I have discovered a training method for me thanks to you. It consists of me consciously visualizing my aura (about 2 meters in size from me from all angles) as bright yellow-gold for the whole day (/as long as I can). I read that thoughts are power, therefore my aura (and my visualization, as a by-product) should get significantly stronger with this exercise. I have been doing it for the last 2 hours with a (very) slight headache due to the concentration. I am planning on doing it until about 6 PM, but I will stop if I start to feel significantly bad from it.If you see any problem with this practice-method then please let me know. Anyways, thanks for helping me out. 
-Shael

  If you are using your aura to influence something, then you are doing just that: using your aura to influence something. Your aura can be used to influence people, electronic devices, and a lot of other things. For example, if there is a jerk in line at the store, you can expand your aura and the jerk will definitely feel that. You can fill your aura with golden-white energy and affirm that your aura is making a positive impression on everyone you meet. You can also use your aura to influence electronic devices. Some people accidentally discover this ability as they meditate and become more powerful. They find that they make computers malfunction, light bulbs blow out, etc. and have to program their aura to not influence electronic devices unless they want it to.


If you want to use your aura to influence things, you will need to be very familiar with directing and manipulating energy.

Directing Energy Meditation
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... nergy.html 
You will need to be able to focus with unbroken concentrations for extended periods of time for any advanced meditation. Frequent lapses in focus will seriously undermine your efforts at developing advanced psychic powers.

Void Meditation
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ation.html 
Flame Meditation
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ation.html 
Also, on some situations it can be more effective to use energy from your hands and use your palm chakras to influence an object. Having strong hand chakras makes it easier to manipulate objects that way.

Hand Chakra Meditaiton
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... akras.html  
When it comes to advanced meditations, what a person experiences is extremely individual. Some people prefer to see energy wile others prefer to feel energy. Pay attention to how something feels. If something feels uncomfortable or negative, stop. If something feels positive or does not feel negative, you are fine. 

Also, build a very strong aura of protection. We are literally warriors behind enemy lines and there are millions of things that can ruin your life or make your life very difficult to where you will have little time for meditation.

You can use SURYAE, ALGIZ, BERKANO, SOWILO (SAULO is the more powerful version), SATANAS, solar energy, or some other method to strengthen your aura of protection. I recommend you use all of the above if you can. A very strong aura of protection will make your life much easier as you will be protected against bad luck, accidents, disease, horrible people, physical or psychic attack, and other misfortune.   How to Clean Your Aura http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... aning.html   Aura of Protection http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ction.html   Meditation for Protection http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic10007.html   The Runic Kabalah PDF and Audio Mp3s http://dawn666blacksun.angelfire.com/Audio_Mp3s.htm   Explanation of the More Powerful Version of the Runes http://josministries.prophpbb.com/post745.html   You can also absorb energy from the sun or visualize yourself in a golden aura and affirm 108 times “I am always safe, secure, protected, and healthy in every way.” The protection working can be done multiple times a day.

How to Obliterate Your Saturn
http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic15507.html  


And, participate in our reverse torah rituals. We are in a war here and need to do what we can for our creator, Satan.

  Reverse Torah Rituals http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/pixie66 ... ituals.htm  

 

[babyb00m]

Energy needs to be directed. Energy that is left un-directed will not effectively fulfill its purpose or it may just dissipate after a while. Energy can be directed with affirmations. Affirmations are short statements that tell the energy what you want it to do. For example, when visualizing the golden energy filling your aura, you can affirm something like, "In a positive manner my aura is permanently increasing in power." Every now and then while visualizing the golden energy filling your aura, state the affirmation so the energy is appropriately directed.

You need to have "In a positive manner" somewhere in your affirmation. Energy takes the path of least resistance and that is usually negative. For example, if you did a spell to attract money and affirmed something like, "I am obtaining large quantities of free and easy money," the money may come to you through an inheritance after the death of a relative or come through disability payments because you were maimed in an accident.

The Three Steps of Witchcraft
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... Steps.html  

 

[Shael1]

Yeah, I have noticed that today. I managed to do about 4 hours throughout the day without major side effects, but any more and it would probably have ended bad. I'll just work my way up from there. On a side note, about an hour ago I was finally able to see the (beautiful) face of my succubus in detail due to the stimulation of my astral sense of seeing, so this training is definetly effective. 
-Shael

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 18:36, Ljóss Myrkr ljossmyrkr@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   My only problem I see with that is it'll wear you out quite a bit. I'd recommend doing a MAXIMUM of an hour a day for the first little while. Then you can gauge that after you start to get stronger 
On Dec 15, 2016, at 02:26, Shael <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">shael666@... [Advanced_[/IMG][email protected] wrote:

  Thank you for the detailed response. I will be sure to try out the meditations you posted. Also, I have discovered a training method for me thanks to you. It consists of me consciously visualizing my aura (about 2 meters in size from me from all angles) as bright yellow-gold for the whole day (/as long as I can). I read that thoughts are power, therefore my aura (and my visualization, as a by-product) should get significantly stronger with this exercise. I have been doing it for the last 2 hours with a (very) slight headache due to the concentration. I am planning on doing it until about 6 PM, but I will stop if I start to feel significantly bad from it.If you see any problem with this practice-method then please let me know. Anyways, thanks for helping me out. 
-Shael

  If you are using your aura to influence something, then you are doing just that: using your aura to influence something. Your aura can be used to influence people, electronic devices, and a lot of other things. For example, if there is a jerk in line at the store, you can expand your aura and the jerk will definitely feel that. You can fill your aura with golden-white energy and affirm that your aura is making a positive impression on everyone you meet. You can also use your aura to influence electronic devices. Some people accidentally discover this ability as they meditate and become more powerful. They find that they make computers malfunction, light bulbs blow out, etc. and have to program their aura to not influence electronic devices unless they want it to.


If you want to use your aura to influence things, you will need to be very familiar with directing and manipulating energy.

Directing Energy Meditation
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... nergy.html 
You will need to be able to focus with unbroken concentrations for extended periods of time for any advanced meditation. Frequent lapses in focus will seriously undermine your efforts at developing advanced psychic powers.

Void Meditation
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ation.html 
Flame Meditation
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ation.html 
Also, on some situations it can be more effective to use energy from your hands and use your palm chakras to influence an object. Having strong hand chakras makes it easier to manipulate objects that way.

Hand Chakra Meditaiton
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... akras.html  
When it comes to advanced meditations, what a person experiences is extremely individual. Some people prefer to see energy wile others prefer to feel energy. Pay attention to how something feels. If something feels uncomfortable or negative, stop. If something feels positive or does not feel negative, you are fine. 

Also, build a very strong aura of protection. We are literally warriors behind enemy lines and there are millions of things that can ruin your life or make your life very difficult to where you will have little time for meditation.

You can use SURYAE, ALGIZ, BERKANO, SOWILO (SAULO is the more powerful version), SATANAS, solar energy, or some other method to strengthen your aura of protection. I recommend you use all of the above if you can. A very strong aura of protection will make your life much easier as you will be protected against bad luck, accidents, disease, horrible people, physical or psychic attack, and other misfortune.   How to Clean Your Aura http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... aning.html   Aura of Protection http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ction.html   Meditation for Protection http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic10007.html   The Runic Kabalah PDF and Audio Mp3s http://dawn666blacksun.angelfire.com/Audio_Mp3s.htm   Explanation of the More Powerful Version of the Runes http://josministries.prophpbb.com/post745.html   You can also absorb energy from the sun or visualize yourself in a golden aura and affirm 108 times “I am always safe, secure, protected, and healthy in every way.” The protection working can be done multiple times a day.

How to Obliterate Your Saturn
http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic15507.html  


And, participate in our reverse torah rituals. We are in a war here and need to do what we can for our creator, Satan.

  Reverse Torah Rituals http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/pixie66 ... ituals.htm  

 

[Shael1]

Ah you are right. Can't believe I forgot something that basic. I'll make sure to affirm it every 15-30 minutes. Thanks 
-Shael

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 0:48, johnson_akemi@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   Energy needs to be directed. Energy that is left un-directed will not effectively fulfill its purpose or it may just dissipate after a while. Energy can be directed with affirmations. Affirmations are short statements that tell the energy what you want it to do. For example, when visualizing the golden energy filling your aura, you can affirm something like, "In a positive manner my aura is permanently increasing in power." Every now and then while visualizing the golden energy filling your aura, state the affirmation so the energy is appropriately directed.

You need to have "In a positive manner" somewhere in your affirmation. Energy takes the path of least resistance and that is usually negative. For example, if you did a spell to attract money and affirmed something like, "I am obtaining large quantities of free and easy money," the money may come to you through an inheritance after the death of a relative or come through disability payments because you were maimed in an accident.

The Three Steps of Witchcraft
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... Steps.html