@victor Bruce Lee actually DID know how to grapple and he was WAY faster than the people you just linked especially his kicks!
This is what happened if you didn't slow down the camera while bruce lee was kicking
Bruce Lee - Fastest kicks ever seen by the world
Take note that while the camera is shitty old world quality there is no editing of the playback speed, and Bruce is STILL not going at anywhere near full speed.
If you can;t tell by bruce lee's movements then pay attention to everyone else to see the camera IS at normal speed and bruce is just that fucking fast!
Bruce Lee Incredible Speed Velocidad increible
And here's MORE detail on his kick speed
Bruce Lee Fastest Kicks ever
See that? Not as good as a pro my ass. No one could even come CLOSE to blocking him in these videos!
Bruce Lee was a street fighter in chinese gangs before he became trained in the martial arts.He was trained in wing chun king fu, judo, boxing, epee fencing, and others.
And since Bruce Lee was trained in judo that means contrary to what you have said he WAS trained in grappling. He developed a training regimen centered on practicality, speed, flexibility and efficiency, trained with weights for strength, running for endurance, stretches for flexibility and he was a user of qigong and owned his own martial arts dojos and gave many demonstrations!
He was not always an actor!
Bruce Lee started as a gang member who always got into street fights given the rough neighborhood he lived in, was trained in the martial arts, moved to america, and was eventually "discovered" by hollywood after his numerous demonstrations and how he beat the shit out of the local martial arts masters who challenged him.
There was a long list of chinese sifu who wanted him taken down because he was teaching chinese martial arts to white people or anyone willing to learn for that matter!
It was after this public duel that he realized wing chun was inefficient and he began training himself different techniques which eventually evolved into jeet kun do, which in truth has no specific forms but instead teaches you to study many forms of martial arts and methods of combat, keep the useful and practical techniues and abandon what is useless or superfical or just doesnt feel natural, and build a strong body with training and spiritual power to produce a mixed martial arts fighting style that suits the individual as a form of self expression!
jeet kun do relies on training the body and spirit for overall performance and adding your own personal twist to techniques while focusing on precision, flexibility and using whatever techniques suit you naturally.
So again you seem to be making alot of assumptions but have no idea what you are talking about.
On Monday, June 22, 2015 2:55 AM, "V Victor eu71992@... [JoyofSatan666]" <
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I already admited he was a genius. The too fast for camera is spectacular, but there are other people who are too fast for the camera.
Sweet Violence: The Genius of Sugar Ray Robinson
To actually see what Sugar Ray Robinson was doing you have too go in slow motion.
A camera, usually to create the motion effect has to run at a minimum of 16 frames per second (fps), but the average camera is about 25 fps. So to punch faster than the camera you need to go like 1 meter (supposed length of the arm) in 1/25 seconds... which is 25 m/s... which is 90 km/h. Above that speed an averge camera would have problems.
For example
Bren Foster Speed - Taekwondo - Studio BZA kicked at 136 miles/h which is 220 km/h. Way too fast for an averege camera. But now there are cameras which go to 120 fps, so you can record that.
The fact that he was faster than the camera was shocking to the media because they didn't see others do that (who were averege actors) do that, but that doesn't mean a profesional fighter couldn't do that.
What I say about technique was that he didn't have grappling technique. And with no grappling technique in today 1 vs 1 hand to hand combat, he would lose a lot, because it doesn't matter how strong you are if your opponent dodges your first punches/kicks (and pros are good at that), when you are at the ground, if you don't know what do to escape the situations, you lose (it's like beeing in water with a shark and you don't know how to swim), because no matter how strong you are a good chocke will kill anyone in like 10 seconds.
A fight with a grappler would most probably end like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd1KDz1X7iE
Now I don't want to give the wrong ideea. All his performance is very impressive (including the chariot, the 2 finger push up, the speed, the blind fighting).And he did have unique abilities like the ping-pong nunchaku (that's amazing, never seen anyone do that).
He was almost as good as a pro fighter, almost as good as a pro powerlifter, almost as good as gymnast (he did a full planche, which is hard) etc. So for example he could lift almost as good as a powerlifer, but can a powerlifer be as good as Bruce Lee in other domains, most likely not.
That is why he is a genius, thus beeing an actor not an athlete, which makes Bruce Lee even more amazing.
În Duminică, 21 Iunie 2015 0:33:35, "fake name angryshaman666@... [JoyofSatan666]" <
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@victor You do know he was so fast he could not be caught on camera without intentionally slowing down right?And again, his punching bag was filled with metal because otherwise he would have broken it.His one inch punch was as strong as a car hitting you at 30 MPH.Now there's a shaolin monk who recently surpassed his one inch punch and clocked it at being like a car hitting 36MPH but that's not much more than what Bruce Lee could do.
What exactly are you basing this off of when you say he wasn't anywhere near as tough as this?Because I've seen the demonstrations he gave where he would give a man a coin, stand more than 5 feet away and then take the coin before the guy could close his palm.
He was faster than any martial artist in recorded history and saying he "lacked technique" is bullshit.
He studied boxing, kung-fu, epee fencing, and numerous other martial arts, took the useful techniques and ditched what was superficial or pointless.
He could lift a whole chariot with a man still sitting in it and throw it! That stunt he did in the movie was REAL.His coordination and speed were very real. He was way stronger in reality than in the movies.
He had to intentionally slow down just to be seen on camera! The set of the Green Hornet was pissed because the first time he was on their set during filming he beat up everyone in the room before the camera saw anything!It literally came down to either bruce lee slowing down so the camera can see him or the Green Hornet changing the script to give kato psychic powers where he kills you with his mind!
On Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:04 AM, "V Victor eu71992@... [JoyofSatan666]" <
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He was a genius in the sense that the knowledge he had was immense. He probably was overall better than every other athlete. But he is very far away from the lion slayer demi-gods from mythology.Can he perform a routine like Nadia Comaneci? Or punch like Muhammad Ali? Or like Tyson? He would probably lose a lot in 1 vs 1 MMA, because he didn't have technique (Royce Gracie although was very weak beated every other style with technique). He would probably lose an Olympic Marathon Challenge or an Olympic Marathon Sprint...He didn't specialize, that doesn't mean he wasn't a beast, super strong compared with all others (overall). And it wasn't his job to do that, he was an actor. But since he didn't do something to surpass the elite in one group (who didn't practice something spiritual), we can't say for sure how did the spirituality he practice helped him.
În Sâmbătă, 20 Iunie 2015 0:54:47, "fake name angryshaman666@... [JoyofSatan666]" <
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@eu719 .....are we talking about the same person?
Bruce Lee was so fucking strong he had to fill his punching bag with metal to avoid breaking it and all his training equipment was modified for the same reason!
He was so fast that in his movies the camera was always in high speed mode just so you could see him move!
So no if you're talking about Bruce Lee you're dead wrong on all counts except maybe the powerlifting thing.He trained with lighter weights to build strength and keep his speed.
On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:04 AM, "eu71992@... [JoyofSatan666]" <
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I like his personality, and he was very advanced phisicaly. He was good at many things, but master of none... There are people more athletic (gymnasts), stronger (powerlifters), faster (sprinters) and who fight better than him (modern MMA fighters), who didn't practice anything spiritual. He was good all around in many areas. Advanced but not Elite... His level can be achieved with steroids, with a moderate dedication for impoved, which could possibly be what shorted his life.
Another example can be Zyzz who used roids and shorted his life (died at 22)... though he made a lot of unhealhty choises and is really far away from the teachings of spirituality; he did achieve an aesthetic and strongish phisique.
Don't you think there's something wrong with that if he died that young? SS's strive to reach physical immortality, so what he did is most likely counterproductive.
