an impasse in my relationship, physical and spiritual.

[Visitor]

It is possible to read into the situation and question why the girl was first with the other guys before him, but there can also be other reasons for this, which we are not provided the information. Maybe he did not ask her out until later. The fact that she is with him now, and actively has sex with him, does show interest on her part, though.

The problem is that OP feeling bad is not the problem of the girl. Ultimately, this is his own insecurity, and trying to find a fully virgin girl is just a defensive tactic. Through spiritual work, OP can address this insecurity and also sexual potency, or other relationship problems. This is a better solution than trying to worry about the other person, which you cannot directly control.

After your reply I felt something like a white light envelop me and I began to feel very good, when negative thoughts happened they were painful, but easy to deal with and forget, I wonder if you had something to do with it.

 

[Visitor]

It is deranged to obsess about other people's sex lives. If it has nothing to do with you, then focus on your own life. Purify yourself, advance. Nobody is saying to be passive, but to understand life.

Contemplate this: https://templeofzeus.org/life_ethics_sexual

So, no answer to my question hmm, so here goes, since HPS Lydia didn't answer, I'll take her lack of answer as an answer to my question itself.

ToZ is supporting race mixing, since "practice of consensual sexuality between adults" is referring to adults and not the race in question. Which I find a bit odd, since I've read Maxine say that Satan despises it.

So what was that Maxine wrote about? Did she just lie then?

I find it funny how ToZ comes up with all these ethics, but has no responsibility whatsoever in explaining them, I'm not the only one with this doubt.

 

[Symmachos-ZEUS/SHAITAN]

So, no answer to my question hmm, so here goes, since HPS Lydia didn't answer, I'll take her lack of answer as an answer to my question itself.

Forget about HPS Lydia.

The only way someone like you should take what HPS Lydia does is "HPS Lydia doesn't have time to explain how a nonsense I said is just my own personal nonsense, because all my time is devoted to saying personal nonsense and as much as I wish that HPS Lydia is also as useless as I am, unfortunately for me She is not and so I can only post 10 more replies where I yell random things crying because I want to be right."

Putting it this way I might even agree with this part of your post.

 

[Visitor]

Forget about HPS Lydia.

The only way someone like you should take what HPS Lydia does is "HPS Lydia doesn't have time to explain how a nonsense I said is just my own personal nonsense, because all my time is devoted to saying personal nonsense and as much as I wish that HPS Lydia is also as useless as I am, unfortunately for me She is not and so I can only post 10 more replies where I yell random things crying because I want to be right."

Putting it this way I might even agree with this part of your post.

I don't need a trained dog explaining anything to me.

If the clergy comes with ethics, they have the responsibility to explain them.

 

[Symmachos-ZEUS/SHAITAN]

Is it true that the more you have casual sex, the more eroded your ability to pair bond becomes?

It depends. It is not binary. You have to evaluate the extremes. An extreme in which you repress yourself to be completely """chaste""" with girls you don't love, but not because you want to be chaste per se, but for simply because you repress yourself for reasons (maybe religious or whatever), damages your way of forming bonds with the girl you will love. Similarly, having sex with every thing that breathes equally programs you to fail to form a bond. You need to be in a healthy path and not in a deleterious extreme.

 

[Symmachos-ZEUS/SHAITAN]

I don't need a trained dog

I don't mind being trained. I train every day for Martial Arts etc.
And I don't mind being compared to dogs. Anubis is my Guardian and he is associated with dogs.
I don't see how that should insult me.
In general all dogs like me, as well as children, people, all animals, and I can always be the center of attention.
I really don't know what your attempts at insult consist of lol.
The bar in front of the headquarters of my Muay Academy has a little dog that is REALLY cute. It's really cute, I don't know how it should be used as an offensive yardstick lol.

 

[Symmachos-ZEUS/SHAITAN]

explaining anything to me

However, since we can always derive good things from bad things....

@Isisd
The only one who is telling you that you should not enjoy your love because your girlfriend had sex is this user. And you can clearly see his level of trustworthiness from his mental state. The rest of us are blessing you in your relationship with her. So, dear, don't hesitate yet to be happy with her

 

[Symmachos-ZEUS/SHAITAN]

If the clergy comes with ethics, they have the responsibility to explain them.

Look, I still decided to answer you. But to NOT do it for you, who absolutely do not deserve it. But to do it EXCLUSIVELY for HPS Lydia since her replies are public, in fact thank her that if it were not for her I really would not be replying to you.

About the Ethics section in ToZ, it is not true as you claim that the ToZ does not speak about the importance of the Races. Here is a really very clear example:

"Race or where we descent from, can be seen as a river that flows onward, stemming from carrying the power of our greater family line, then our race, then humanity"
From:

Virtue Ζ - Family & Ancestors

(HEIL ASTARTE!)

Now, if you have not found clear references to the fact that a white man should not have children with a black man, it is because this thing in itself is against nature. The Temple of Zeus is pro-Nature and therefore we don't always have to directly say, "Don't mix, don't buy Torah, when you meditate on the chakras, use the words of Gentile power to do it and not other crap, etc."

Once one meditates on these Ethical concepts of Race, the initiate will understand for himself that when the ToZ promotes the continuation of the Races and not the removal of them, the only way to do so is by preserving one's racial identity without defiling and losing it. And he will understand this without filling the page of sexual ethics with long articles on immigration, communism, etc.

It bothered me VERY much to have to stop and respond. So really the least you can do is to thank @HPS Lydia

 

[Visitor]

Look, I still decided to answer you. But to NOT do it for you, who absolutely do not deserve it. But to do it EXCLUSIVELY for HPS Lydia since her replies are public, in fact thank her that if it were not for her I really would not be replying to you.

About the Ethics section in ToZ, it is not true as you claim that the ToZ does not speak about the importance of the Races. Here is a really very clear example:

"Race or where we descent from, can be seen as a river that flows onward, stemming from carrying the power of our greater family line, then our race, then humanity"
From:

Virtue Ζ - Family & Ancestors

(HEIL ASTARTE!)

Now, if you have not found clear references to the fact that a white man should not have children with a black man, it is because this thing in itself is against nature. The Temple of Zeus is pro-Nature and therefore we don't always have to directly say, "Don't mix, don't buy Torah, when you meditate on the chakras, use the words of Gentile power to do it and not other crap, etc."

Once one meditates on these Ethical concepts of Race, the initiate will understand for himself that when the ToZ promotes the continuation of the Races and not the removal of them, the only way to do so is by preserving one's racial identity without defiling and losing it. And he will understand this without filling the page of sexual ethics with long articles on immigration, communism, etc.

It bothered me VERY much to have to stop and respond. So really the least you can do is to thank @HPS Lydia

And who are you to say what I deserve or not? It's so titled, "EXCLUSIVELY for HPS Lydia" yes that's what I meant by "trained dog"

If I'm going to thank someone for this answer it's going to be you and not HPS Lydia, she's the one who decided to stay silent.

You make it seem like being HPS is just a title for show rather than a real position, the ethics she mentioned was very generic about "adults" and I don't have to read a million texts to know that there are other ethics saying about this. The amount of text that ToZ has is very large, simple.

And as a last note, men can't get pregnant.

 

[HPS Lydia]

since HPS Lydia didn't answer, I'll take her lack of answer as an answer to my question itself.

I do not read most posts in the forums. I am focused on expanding the ToZ and other duties. The arguments of people such as yourself are of no interest to me. I have not read most of this thread, but I occasionally type my name in the search because members write to me that way.

You need to meditate and clear your mind, because you seem to be twisting things in your mind.

 

[Visitor]

I do not read most posts in the forums. I am focused on expanding the ToZ and other duties. The arguments of people such as yourself are of no interest to me. I have not read most of this thread, but I occasionally type my name in the search because members write to me that way.

You need to meditate and clear your mind, because you seem to be twisting things in your mind.

Yes, you're right, it was never really my intention to insult anyone or you.

I'm going to take some time off online, I've always functioned better alone.

 

[HPS Lydia]

I had no idea this tread spiraled so much. I have not been active in the forums for a while, as I have other areas to attend to.

This "Visitor" twisted what was said. I understand psychology very well. People often get triggered and then distort what others tell them. This is why it is important for people to meditate and advance, and get over their triggers. Become mentally healthy.

If someone has bad past experiences, they will take it out on others, and twist what was actually said or intended. I am not a common person, I have been steadily advancing for 15 years; and I was not common to begin with. So one cannot take what I say to be that of a commoner.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

So, no answer to my question hmm, so here goes, since HPS Lydia didn't answer, I'll take her lack of answer as an answer to my question itself.

ToZ is supporting race mixing, since "practice of consensual sexuality between adults" is referring to adults and not the race in question. Which I find a bit odd, since I've read Maxine say that Satan despises it.

So what was that Maxine wrote about? Did she just lie then?

I find it funny how ToZ comes up with all these ethics, but has no responsibility whatsoever in explaining them, I'm not the only one with this doubt.

And then she wrote all the materials about why integrity to your race it's important, so putting 1+1 together, we have freedom on one hand and consent, and to understand the racial dynamic. What is there so strange about this? Nothing.

 

[Soul Wings]

Wanting a virgin doesn't really make any sense, it's not like a woman is impure if she isn't a virgin.

Personally, as a virgin myself, I would absolutely not be with a man who obsessed over this. Wanting a woman a virgin is (GENERALLY) a christian and muslim practice and is about control and insecurity. If she is a virgin she will fall in love with me and will never leave me and will never compare me to other men and not know what another penis looks like (lol). I'm sorry brothers you do you, but anything discussed like this makes me get major incel vibes (regardless of the reality) and mega ick.

Not attacking OP either - you do you brother and I hope your relationship flourishes long into the future.
I understand wanting to be with someone who has similar sexual experience, but this simply may not be possible in one's lifetime.

Is it true that the more you have casual sex, the more eroded your ability to pair bond becomes?

Yes, if you constantly get in short term relationships then you get really good at it and that may become all you know. I'm not referring to people looking for serious relationships. Just the ones constantly in FWB and situationships. That's why you have to date with intention. Sure it's normal to expect casual in the beginning, but there's nothing stopping you from being clear about what you want. Gets rid of the time wasters.

 

[Donovandal]

Is it true that the more you have casual sex, the more eroded your ability to pair bond becomes?

If you are weak to the point that you are incapable of overcoming your past then, the answer is yes,

From what i have at least saw and experienced, people who claim to be "perfect" "10/10" ect. have this problem.

Keeping Healthy balance is the key to everything in life, unhealthy extremes always cause problems and issues.

 

[Isisd]

It is deranged to obsess about other people's sex lives. If it has nothing to do with you, then focus on your own life. Purify yourself, advance. Nobody is saying to be passive, but to understand life.

Contemplate this: https://templeofzeus.org/life_ethics_sexual

You are within your right to follow your own philosophy of relationships, but you could have simply said "I disagree with HPS Lydia because ..." and that is a neutral way to do this. Removing her title and saying you "don't give a shit" is certainly disrespectful. This only undermines you by making you appear reckless; better to just apologize and move on, not double down.

Regarding the element of virginity here, of course this can be meaningful to give to someone if you intend it this way, or to stick with your first partner, but to expect everyone to do this is not realistic at all, either. Further, when a man is nervous about this, despite the girl still staying with him and having sex with him, I believe this reflects his own insecurity that he cannot outperform the other men, or that he cannot make a strong enough connection or impact over time, etc.

If the woman was daydreaming about other sexual partners, past or future, then of course you are right to be upset, but if this is not the case and she simply had past sexual partners, then you can only move forward, just like she did by leaving them and coming to you.

It is possible to read into the situation and question why the girl was first with the other guys before him, but there can also be other reasons for this, which we are not provided the information. Maybe he did not ask her out until later. The fact that she is with him now, and actively has sex with him, does show interest on her part, though.

The problem is that OP feeling bad is not the problem of the girl. Ultimately, this is his own insecurity, and trying to find a fully virgin girl is just a defensive tactic. Through spiritual work, OP can address this insecurity and also sexual potency, or other relationship problems. This is a better solution than trying to worry about the other person, which you cannot directly control.

I'm sorry for my absence, I don't have a strong reason to justify my forgetfulness to respond to these precious answers, I'm just going through what I think it's a personal crisis. The truth is I've poorly explained the situation, banalizing it and making it all about sex. If anyone of you can spend a slice of their precioius time to read and to respond to this, I'll be very grateful, as I'm grateful to have so much mature and advanced people to discuss this with.
I am 19 years old, I fell in love with this girl when we where both around 15. We were both our first love. We had a relationship, but never had sexual intercourse. After 4 months, I had to leave her because I had to relocate, and the relationship finished, but I never stopped thinking about her and leaving her because I had to relocate in order to not making her suffer will be on of my biggest regrets. A year later, I came back from the same town, same school were I met her. She was in a relationship with another guy, had sex with him, but eventually she broke up with him and started talking to me again. We start talking again, nothing happens. She goes with this other guy, have sex with him, leaves him, we started talking again, after a quarrell she ghosted me. Mind you this all happened when we were about 16/17. The last year of highschool begun, we were 18, i hated her like i've never hated someone in my life. I've always waited for her, wrote her letters that i never gave, never had any sexual intercourse with anyone, even though I had the chance once or twice, because i simply couldn't do it physically and it felt off. Around february of 2024 she goes in another relationship with this other guy and of course has sex with him. At this point I feel that I'm not capable of feeling love or have sex with someone ever in my life. In June, highschool is ending, and I finally felt free for the first time in four years. I gave her all my letters, I said all the things i've never said to her, i just wanted this cathartic moment to free myself once and for all, since i was never going to see her again. But what happened next wasn't what i expected at all. She told me she felt the same way, that she always loved me but never had the courage because she thought i would leave her all over again. She told me that she purposedly did go with other guys who resembled me physically (and it's true, they all resemble me in some way) because she thought i hated her and never wanted to have anything to do with her again. Days later, she gives me all the diary pages she wrote for me during these years, saying basically what she told me previously (she couldn't forget me, got with others but always thought about me, i was the one etc). At this point i don't know what to do, i'm overwhelmed, i feel like she always felt the connection i did, but expressed it in different ways (while i bottled all my emotions up, waiting for god knows what, she vented with sex and relationships). I also thought this was another lie of hers, but couldn't ignore the connection i felt, and the fact that all the feelings i thought were gone, rised up stronger than ever. She cheated on her previous boyfriend with me, leaved him, had sex with me (I was wrong thinking i couldn't do it, because everything did go heavenly). She told me it was the best sex of her life, not only because it was physically ecstatic, but also because she felt an unexplainable connection. We got together ufficially, we had the best head over heels summer of our lives, We've been almost a year together, started university together, moved to the same city, travelled, studied, got to know each other, lived in the same house for months. For me, it was one of the best periods of my life. I've never thought once about her past... until now. I don't understand why, during the end of february/starting of march i had all of these resentment coming out (I don't know if it's related to the current venus retrograde or else). I started to remember all the things she did till a year ago, like I was waking up from a dream. Eventually, when the situation became unbereable for me, i confronted her about it. To make a long story short, we had really bad fights, all ended with both of us crying. I've never seen someone cry like her before in my life. She told me what she had with others was nothing and nothing, and didn't matter to her, and that she didn't knew what love was till she got with me. For my part, I just couldn't forget what she did. It's like I hate and have a quarrel with a part of her that apparently is gone, and that i can't forget. I can't forget the offense i felt in my heart when i knew everytime she got with one of these three guys, the sense of betrayal and perpetual anguish. Maybe because I'm an extremely monogamous person, because i think that sex is the most intimate thing you can do with someone in your life and she did it with other three guys, because i believe it creates soul ties, and i believe virginity it something very special i had to take from her since she's the loml. I can't bear the thought that the hypothetical mother of my future children got around, you know? I can't bear the betrayal combined with the three body counts. We talk about it currently and we are trying to resolve it together: she doesn't blame me for how i feel, she's always here for me when i want to talk to her about it, even if it can make her feel bad and cry sometimes. Sometimes she goes defensive. I watch videos about how to cure retroactive jealousy because i want to become a better person and overcome it. But it's hard. One day i thing i'm well, the other day i have a break down and can't even look at her. I don't know what to do. I sure don't want to break up because i know myself, and i know i couldn't be able to start a relationship with anybody else. But i don't know the best way to get past it. Read about similar life examples? Writing it over and over in my journal? Bang my head against the wall?

p.s : to the visitor that called her a "whore", go fuck yourself.

 

[Visitor]

...

Sigh... so all the nonsense you wrote initially was just for someone here on the forum to put their hand on your head and say it's okay, it's going to be okay?

I think I need to relax more and understand that not everyone coming to talk about their problems is really relevant.

What you've written just proves my point even more, for naïve boys like you a simple “I love you” is enough

Although I've lost control of myself, everything I've said is based on my own experiences and the experiences of acquaintances and others.

Next time the story is “my wife cheated on me while I was away on business” please let me know in advance so I can get the popcorn.

By the way, as you probably didn't quite understand what I've just written, let me clarify, this is another experience of a work friend that I've heard from her quite a lot by the way

Sigh... I don't even know what I'm saying, since you look European to me, or maybe American? But you know, before you tell me to fuck off, I hope you'll be able to say it to my face sometime, because here we work it out like this and not behind a computer screen.

I really have to take things less seriously hmm, I feel that your tread seeking only consolation for your drama was just a waste of my time

 

[Henu the Great]

I'm sorry for my absence, I don't have a strong reason to justify my forgetfulness to respond to these precious answers, I'm just going through what I think it's a personal crisis. The truth is I've poorly explained the situation, banalizing it and making it all about sex. If anyone of you can spend a slice of their precioius time to read and to respond to this, I'll be very grateful, as I'm grateful to have so much mature and advanced people to discuss this with.
I am 19 years old, I fell in love with this girl when we where both around 15. We were both our first love. We had a relationship, but never had sexual intercourse. After 4 months, I had to leave her because I had to relocate, and the relationship finished, but I never stopped thinking about her and leaving her because I had to relocate in order to not making her suffer will be on of my biggest regrets. A year later, I came back from the same town, same school were I met her. She was in a relationship with another guy, had sex with him, but eventually she broke up with him and started talking to me again. We start talking again, nothing happens. She goes with this other guy, have sex with him, leaves him, we started talking again, after a quarrell she ghosted me. Mind you this all happened when we were about 16/17. The last year of highschool begun, we were 18, i hated her like i've never hated someone in my life. I've always waited for her, wrote her letters that i never gave, never had any sexual intercourse with anyone, even though I had the chance once or twice, because i simply couldn't do it physically and it felt off. Around february of 2024 she goes in another relationship with this other guy and of course has sex with him. At this point I feel that I'm not capable of feeling love or have sex with someone ever in my life. In June, highschool is ending, and I finally felt free for the first time in four years. I gave her all my letters, I said all the things i've never said to her, i just wanted this cathartic moment to free myself once and for all, since i was never going to see her again. But what happened next wasn't what i expected at all. She told me she felt the same way, that she always loved me but never had the courage because she thought i would leave her all over again. She told me that she purposedly did go with other guys who resembled me physically (and it's true, they all resemble me in some way) because she thought i hated her and never wanted to have anything to do with her again. Days later, she gives me all the diary pages she wrote for me during these years, saying basically what she told me previously (she couldn't forget me, got with others but always thought about me, i was the one etc). At this point i don't know what to do, i'm overwhelmed, i feel like she always felt the connection i did, but expressed it in different ways (while i bottled all my emotions up, waiting for god knows what, she vented with sex and relationships). I also thought this was another lie of hers, but couldn't ignore the connection i felt, and the fact that all the feelings i thought were gone, rised up stronger than ever. She cheated on her previous boyfriend with me, leaved him, had sex with me (I was wrong thinking i couldn't do it, because everything did go heavenly). She told me it was the best sex of her life, not only because it was physically ecstatic, but also because she felt an unexplainable connection. We got together ufficially, we had the best head over heels summer of our lives, We've been almost a year together, started university together, moved to the same city, travelled, studied, got to know each other, lived in the same house for months. For me, it was one of the best periods of my life. I've never thought once about her past... until now. I don't understand why, during the end of february/starting of march i had all of these resentment coming out (I don't know if it's related to the current venus retrograde or else). I started to remember all the things she did till a year ago, like I was waking up from a dream. Eventually, when the situation became unbereable for me, i confronted her about it. To make a long story short, we had really bad fights, all ended with both of us crying. I've never seen someone cry like her before in my life. She told me what she had with others was nothing and nothing, and didn't matter to her, and that she didn't knew what love was till she got with me. For my part, I just couldn't forget what she did. It's like I hate and have a quarrel with a part of her that apparently is gone, and that i can't forget. I can't forget the offense i felt in my heart when i knew everytime she got with one of these three guys, the sense of betrayal and perpetual anguish. Maybe because I'm an extremely monogamous person, because i think that sex is the most intimate thing you can do with someone in your life and she did it with other three guys, because i believe it creates soul ties, and i believe virginity it something very special i had to take from her since she's the loml. I can't bear the thought that the hypothetical mother of my future children got around, you know? I can't bear the betrayal combined with the three body counts. We talk about it currently and we are trying to resolve it together: she doesn't blame me for how i feel, she's always here for me when i want to talk to her about it, even if it can make her feel bad and cry sometimes. Sometimes she goes defensive. I watch videos about how to cure retroactive jealousy because i want to become a better person and overcome it. But it's hard. One day i thing i'm well, the other day i have a break down and can't even look at her. I don't know what to do. I sure don't want to break up because i know myself, and i know i couldn't be able to start a relationship with anybody else. But i don't know the best way to get past it. Read about similar life examples? Writing it over and over in my journal? Bang my head against the wall?

p.s : to the visitor that called her a "whore", go fuck yourself.

Both of you need to accept responsibility for the past failure of avoiding a true connection. You can work it out together, eventually, when you set your minds to it.

 

[Isisd]

Both of you need to accept responsibility for the past failure of avoiding a true connection. You can work it out together, eventually, when you set your minds to it.

Thank you for your answer, I really appreciated