A xanax problem

[oompa loompa]

hello, I have a xanax problem that I'm not sure how to deal with. I know someone very advanced spiritually that has taken xanax (a strong Benzodiazepine) in order to treat severe ocd symptoms for the majority of their life. Their tolerance to the drug requires they take minimally 3mg daily, or else their body begins to go into shock. The drug appears to make them entirely insensitive to spiritual energy in most cases. Without a functional substitution for the drug, they'll either die (literally) or suffer greatly from ocd. Before they started taking the drug, they were apparently able to do TK and EK effortlessly, which I'm convinced is true. Their dependency on xanax is holding them back spiritually and causing plenty of other problems on a physical level, such as not being able to legally travel with their prescription and/or purchase and obtain it in most of the world at the amount they require.

I highly doubt I'll find the answers here, thought I'd ask anyway. oompa loompa out.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Benzodiazepines are the most dangerous drugs in the world, and the most difficult to heal from. This requires professional help to heal from this, and it may take several months or even more than a year to get back to normal. This drug can kill you if you do not lower the doses at the correct rate, that's why you need real help while being medically monitored.

 

[oompa loompa]

Benzodiazepines are the most dangerous drugs in the world, and the most difficult to heal from. This requires professional help to heal from this, and it may take several months or even more than a year to get back to normal. This drug can kill you if you do not lower the doses at the correct rate, that's why you need real help while being medically monitored.

This is true, but it doesn't solve the full problem. The science surrounding psychiatric medication and treatment is dog shit, doctors might inaccurately prescribe over a dozen medications before a different one adequately treats their ocd. If it wasn't for the fact that benzos seem to dampen spiritual sensitivity, I would leave the issue be.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

These drugs directly work to shut down and kill the brain, the mind, and the soul. This is not anything good. There is nothing safe, helpful, or okay about this.

I am not saying for a doctor to switch from dangerous drugs to other dangerous drugs. I'm saying remove this drug from the body while doctors are monitoring 24/7 so they can see if a bad reaction is happening, they can save your life.

You say spiritually advanced, but all I see is inability to control the mind, inability to control thoughts, followed by strong addiction to one of the top most dangerous and destructive drugs in the world.

 

[Lmnop]

hello, I have a xanax problem that I'm not sure how to deal with. I know someone very advanced spiritually that has taken xanax (a strong Benzodiazepine) in order to treat severe ocd symptoms for the majority of their life. Their tolerance to the drug requires they take minimally 3mg daily, or else their body begins to go into shock. The drug appears to make them entirely insensitive to spiritual energy in most cases. Without a functional substitution for the drug, they'll either die (literally) or suffer greatly from ocd. Before they started taking the drug, they were apparently able to do TK and EK effortlessly, which I'm convinced is true. Their dependency on xanax is holding them back spiritually and causing plenty of other problems on a physical level, such as not being able to legally travel with their prescription and/or purchase and obtain it in most of the world at the amount they require.

I highly doubt I'll find the answers here, thought I'd ask anyway. oompa loompa out.

Like people said and like I'm sure you knew - it won't be easy. Where there's a will, there are a thousand ways. As with anything if your willpower is strong enough then everything else will bend to it. It won't be comfortable but your friends best bet is to embrace that because inside of it is the change that he needs. Don't give up and you will succeed. You have to taper off of it and unfortunately, depending on how strong he is, he might need something to help cope with the taper. Tapering will not be as bad as total withdrawal, however. He won't feel as good as he normally does but he will have to push through it and find delight and comfort in his new circumstances. If he trys hard enough to manifest that, to be strong and to feel good even in tough times, eventually the change he's seeking to bring about will layer over what was once there. Hail Satan! Satan said he created 4 substances, and four times.. I battle with substance dependency myself but there's a reason that everything happens. For some it will be part of their evolution. Everything exists for a reason, nothing is without purpose. So while drugs are bad, they also are good and have opened doors to positive things and change and feeling for some people in some places at some times. They are, they aren't, they are both at the same time, and they sometimes are neither. That's four times.. whatever works.. find the light. It might not matter how you get there, only that you got there. Everything is at your disposal to be exhausted during your journey. All options.. nobody's path is the same.. we're all trying to reach the end. Trust the light within you to guide the way.

 

[Lmnop]

Don't tell me we should never stumble, because it's been written in the high priests' sermons and the words of father that we will. Everything serves a purpose. You know when something is becoming detrimental to your evolution and progress and livelihood and spiritual wellness. We are here to learn. It's not just that there is one right way.. four times... remember. It can seem like madness but surely our comprehension and overcoming of such is part of the transition into God hood. Don't suffer if you don't want to.. sometimes you don't have to and it is a choice we make, to flip over to the other energy current. To force that change and create the experience we want to live in, rather than being subjected to it.

 

[oompa loompa]

These drugs directly work to shut down and kill the brain, the mind, and the soul. This is not anything good. There is nothing safe, helpful, or okay about this.

I am not saying for a doctor to switch from dangerous drugs to other dangerous drugs. I'm saying remove this drug from the body while doctors are monitoring 24/7 so they can see if a bad reaction is happening, they can save your life.

You say spiritually advanced, but all I see is inability to control the mind, inability to control thoughts, followed by strong addiction to one of the top most dangerous and destructive drugs in the world.

I'm not sure why you keep saying "you", I really am asking for a friend. A bad reaction is guarantied, either from the ocd or xanax withdrawal. Power isn't necessarily linear with control, besides we're speaking about a mental disease beyond some ones control not a bad habit. Anyway, I'm not sure what the solution here is, but going cold turkey isn't the solution whatsoever. If you're going to repeatedly recommend this, it's best we dropped the convo and stopped wasting both of our time.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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They have to wean off of it, and replace the drug with another solution to their problems. We can use healing energy for both the withdrawals, and for the OCD symptoms. If they are advanced, this will not be a problem to implement.

Look to holistic and safer healing methods, like TCM and Ayurveda, as far as symptom management goes. Even invoking some earth energy can be used to calm OCD.

Anyway, first step is to work with their doctor to wean off. Just as they built up to it, they can come down. It is not a matter of "if", but "when". This could be something like a 5% reduction in dose per day. I have no experience here, but your friend is not the first to come off of Xanax, so there should be support and literature available.

 

[Way_Seeker666]

hello, I have a xanax problem that I'm not sure how to deal with. I know someone very advanced spiritually that has taken xanax (a strong Benzodiazepine) in order to treat severe ocd symptoms for the majority of their life. Their tolerance to the drug requires they take minimally 3mg daily, or else their body begins to go into shock. The drug appears to make them entirely insensitive to spiritual energy in most cases. Without a functional substitution for the drug, they'll either die (literally) or suffer greatly from ocd. Before they started taking the drug, they were apparently able to do TK and EK effortlessly, which I'm convinced is true. Their dependency on xanax is holding them back spiritually and causing plenty of other problems on a physical level, such as not being able to legally travel with their prescription and/or purchase and obtain it in most of the world at the amount they require.

I highly doubt I'll find the answers here, thought I'd ask anyway. oompa loompa out.

I have far too much experience with drug related matters both first amd second hand and what's been said by Ol argedco luciftias and Blitzkreig is correct. Benzos are truly terrible drugs and one of the top 3 most difficult and most dangerous to quit. It has to be done with profession help.
They destroy focus, well being, self-esteem, most facets of the memory, and will easily turn a person into a dysfunctional vegetable. And spirituality advanced drug addicts do not exist, stop allowing yourself to be lied to and manipulated by that person.

 

[oompa loompa]

hello, I have a xanax problem that I'm not sure how to deal with. I know someone very advanced spiritually that has taken xanax (a strong Benzodiazepine) in order to treat severe ocd symptoms for the majority of their life. Their tolerance to the drug requires they take minimally 3mg daily, or else their body begins to go into shock. The drug appears to make them entirely insensitive to spiritual energy in most cases. Without a functional substitution for the drug, they'll either die (literally) or suffer greatly from ocd. Before they started taking the drug, they were apparently able to do TK and EK effortlessly, which I'm convinced is true. Their dependency on xanax is holding them back spiritually and causing plenty of other problems on a physical level, such as not being able to legally travel with their prescription and/or purchase and obtain it in most of the world at the amount they require.

I highly doubt I'll find the answers here, thought I'd ask anyway. oompa loompa out.

And spirituality advanced drug addicts do not exist, stop allowing yourself to be lied to and manipulated by that person.

Anomalies exist, stop being so absolutist. You're seriously going to suggest you know more on the matter than I do based on the limited information I presented?

Other than that, xanax is less harmful than their ocd symptoms would be.

 

[Henu the Great]

Other than that, xanax is less harmful than their ocd symptoms would be.

Insert not sure if trolling meme here.

As bad as mental disorders can get, at the end of the day drugs can kill either directly after consumption or by withdrawal (in the case of benzodiazepines). Not to mention the other harmful effects such as slow decay that result from substance usage. A broken mind alone can not do those things. So yeah.

 

[oompa loompa]

Forget I fucking asked... I can't remember the specific reason I even bothered to here, would delete my post if that was possible. If you don't know, don't pretend to be an expert. It's better to say nothing than impose biased views that would result in worse situations if implemented. If xanax wasn't worse than the ocd symptoms, the person wouldn't have any reason to take it as a prescription in the first place. Some of you are so fucking stupid, omg. Take a break from these forums and get a life, gf too if you can manage. Wish you luck :lol: !

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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You call us stupid, but you are asking us the solution to a simple problem. What the fuck do you think the solution is when someone has a severe drug problem? You even said yourself: "Without a functional substitution for the drug, they'll either die (literally) or suffer greatly from ocd". Ok, so get off the xanax, which was never a solution to begin with.

Instead you insult everyone here, just because they told you the obvious, which is to seek alternative treatments, themselves found in holistic medicine and within the spiritual knowledge (Wunjo, Uruz, Ansuz, etc) your friend is supposedly advanced in.

You are assuming the solution is either black or white here. Drug withdrawals are solved by NOT going cold turkey, but instead tapering the dosage over time to mitigate any negative reactions.

Why did you ask for help if you were going to whip around and accuse everyone of being stupid? Maybe it is better to be open-minded about your options if you are struggling with something.

Stay and listen, as there are good options here, rather than getting irritated at the drop of a hat.

 

[Henu the Great]

Forget I fucking asked... I can't remember the specific reason I even bothered to here, would delete my post if that was possible. If you don't know, don't pretend to be an expert. It's better to say nothing than impose biased views that would result in worse situations if implemented. If xanax wasn't worse than the ocd symptoms, the person wouldn't have any reason to take it as a prescription in the first place. Some of you are so fucking stupid, omg. Take a break from these forums and get a life, gf too if you can manage. Wish you luck :lol: !

Yes, of course, we are biased when we do not conform to your preconceived idea of using drugs to maintain normal function.

To answer your original question. It is possible to stop using benzodiazepines and it has to be done gradually for anyone with habituated usage because benzodiazepine withdrawals can be deadly. And it is possible to heal from mental disorders with consistent and specific spiritual effort.

But you did not want to heal as it seems you seek confirmation of drug usage and get offended when opposing views are presented.

Lastly, no one with any sort of habitual drug usage is "advanced" spiritually as you put it, or suffers from mental disorders to begin with. Any such obstacles would prevent meaningful advancement. And yes, I do realize that there are multiple factors that make up what can be called "advanced".

 

[HPS Lydia]

Somebody who is spiritually advanced can heal themselves through meditation. So they are not spiritually advanced.

As well, drug addictions reverse advancement.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Somebody with that serious of a mental problem who is completely unable to function day to day is the absolute furthest thing from a spiritually advanced person. Then you combine with one of the top worst drugs that directly damages and kills both the body, the mind, and the soul. This is an extremely damaged and broken person who will likely need more than a lifetime of constant spiritual healing and adcancement to heal from the enormous damage that has been done.

 

[Way_Seeker666]

Anomalies exist, stop being so absolutist. You're seriously going to suggest you know more on the matter than I do based on the limited information I presented?

Other than that, xanax is less harmful than their ocd symptoms would be.

A person who is born with one or more spiritual "gifts"/natural abilities can be a drug addict, but to be advanced takes work and both requires and includes the person being in control of their mind and emotions and having a strong mind and will, and as Lydia said such a person would be able to heal themselves. I'd even say that "advanced" by Spiritual Satanists' standards is quite far past where such things can be healed.

OCD symptoms can be extremely unpleasant but they beat turning one's brain into a dull, weak and rather useless mess that depends on the very thing that made it so to not be in an even worse state.

If you can't handle the fact you might be wrong about something, you have some growing up to do and perhaps should not be asking questions whilst not being prepared to accept answers to them.
If you're trolling, you are wasting your time on an absolutely futile pursuit. But if that's the case you'll no doubt insist on learning the hard way.