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Could someone enlighten me about how this degree manifests, is it bad? Jupiter 15 degrees in Leo in 6th house is also conjunct with my Descendent with a 2 degree orb.
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I am studying right now this situation with 15 degree and some things were revealed to me. In short this is very karmic thing and very fate-related. I mean there are fate related aspects and Destiny related ones. By "fate" I mean something that is seen by the most as "inevitable" and "forced upon", usually of unwanted nature. While Destiny signs are not just "wanted" but rather felt like called by, inspired, felt like being initiated into Divine through them, being a vessel of the Gods' will etc. I call these things Destiny call. These two spheres of fate are mystically interconnected, but there are extremes of one and of another. The fist is the chart of a dream, the second is the chart of a wrong reincarnation. 15 degree is the last and the extreme of the last. This might come with a very bad karmic heritage, for example, very hard wrongdoings / offences of the racial, ancestral or the own soul in relation to Leo. (I still wonder if Leo rules Ego whether these might be ego-related offences that are on the bottom of such karma?).
The energies of good karma and demands of what I call karmic yoga (i.e. doing feats and being Hero all your life 24/7) are extremely stagnated at this degree that might and in most cases will cause pain. Yet there were very high Zevist souls who sublimated it into highest art and greatest feats done for humanity such as Beethoven:
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He went deaf but he built greatest career possible, never faced any extreme misfortune such as torture (typical for ordinary person with 15 Leo), and was like a highest protected Hellenist soul sent by the Gods here, all his life he did what he wanted to do and realized himself to the fullest extent. He lived his life in a way taught by God Thoth: "live your life and you will live forever". This is grand master sublimation of 15 Leo. Brilliant.
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To give more higher art dealing with bad degrees, Schumann pair dealt with some less bad degrees, namely close orb to 9 degree Virgo and 17 degree Gemini. They both were composers and pianists. She - more great pianist, he - more great composer. She had 8 children and had to provide for her family all her life being 24/7 pianist, he - had disability and ended up in psychic hospital. Yet they still both self-realized in highest godly forms of classic music.
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In the HPS posts above you might learn of some other 15 Leo people. All them are united by doing professional feats all their lives.
I would especially mention Elizabeth Taylor since her situation might be relative to yours in planetary way. She sublimated her horrific 6th ruler Jupiter 15 Leo - into the most Piscean career possible, acting from the very young age, Piscean topic being prominent in her life in general.
Both the above cases deal with bad health and huge investment into profession.
As for the Descendent, this rules others and all sides of this: war, peace, negotiation, all relationship karma, all your ethics in your work with others, level of respect shown for others, level of treatment of others, level of Justice shown for others etc. 7th is about your feats done in regards to other people, whether business, brotherly, or knightly ones - loyalty to your brothers in arms, to your spouse, nobility shown in battle, etc. Your karmic debts to others.
You have endless possibilities combining these two spheres. 6th deals with a lot things from ecology, hygiene and veterinary / domestic animals to serving others in every way or form, work sphere at all, serving society, absolutely all sphere of medicine from Ancient Pagan and TCM to modern and highly technological one. Unfortunately it rules diseases when messing up with 15 Leo. You have to do health workings all your life as well as protection ones.
Leo is also about all kinds of performative feats such as Performative arts and speeches before large masses of people, if politics then speeches on the TV screen before billions, being face of country / company. 7th house being very relative to negotiation and politics (official person negotiating 24/7).
I am studying right now this situation with 15 degree and some things were revealed to me. In short this is very karmic thing and very fate-related. I mean there are fate related aspects and Destiny related ones. By "fate" I mean something that is seen by the most as "inevitable" and "forced upon", usually of unwanted nature. While Destiny signs are not just "wanted" but rather felt like called by, inspired, felt like being initiated into Divine through them, being a vessel of the Gods' will etc. I call these things Destiny call. These two spheres of fate are mystically interconnected, but there are extremes of one and of another. The fist is the chart of a dream, the second is the chart of a wrong reincarnation. 15 degree is the last and the extreme of the last. This might come with a very bad karmic heritage, for example, very hard wrongdoings / offences of the racial, ancestral or the own soul in relation to Leo. (I still wonder if Leo rules Ego whether these might be ego-related offences that are on the bottom of such karma?).
The energies of good karma and demands of what I call karmic yoga (i.e. doing feats and being Hero all your life 24/7) are extremely stagnated at this degree that might and in most cases will cause pain. Yet there were very high Zevist souls who sublimated it into highest art and greatest feats done for humanity such as Beethoven:
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Hello again Maxine. I remember you mentioning to me that other astrologers base their interpretations based on nature and not the rest. Are there other things based the planets are?
6/29/12
A few things... I know my other post was cut off. When a planet is in conjunction with an angle- the ascendant/decendant axis, or the midheaven/IC axis, this gives it more power in the chart. The affairs of the house/s it rules over are more emphasized in the life. For example...say uranus is...
He went deaf but he built greatest career possible, never faced any extreme misfortune such as torture (typical for ordinary person with 15 Leo), and was like a highest protected Hellenist soul sent by the Gods here, all his life he did what he wanted to do and realized himself to the fullest extent. He lived his life in a way taught by God Thoth: "live your life and you will live forever". This is grand master sublimation of 15 Leo. Brilliant.
Astro-Databank chart of Ludwig Van Beethoven, born on 16 December 1770 (noon, no houses) - Astrodienst
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To give more higher art dealing with bad degrees, Schumann pair dealt with some less bad degrees, namely close orb to 9 degree Virgo and 17 degree Gemini. They both were composers and pianists. She - more great pianist, he - more great composer. She had 8 children and had to provide for her family all her life being 24/7 pianist, he - had disability and ended up in psychic hospital. Yet they still both self-realized in highest godly forms of classic music.
Astro-Databank chart of Robert Schumann, born on 8 June 1810 - Astrodienst
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Astro-Databank chart of Clara Schumann, born on 13 September 1819 (noon, no houses) - Astrodienst
This page is one of many thousand pages at Astrodienst's website. Get your free horoscope - and much more! Astrodienst AG in Zürich, Switzerland provides the world's best astrology site for free horoscopes, professional astrological reports and information about astrology.
In the HPS posts above you might learn of some other 15 Leo people. All them are united by doing professional feats all their lives.
I would especially mention Elizabeth Taylor since her situation might be relative to yours in planetary way. She sublimated her horrific 6th ruler Jupiter 15 Leo - into the most Piscean career possible, acting from the very young age, Piscean topic being prominent in her life in general.
Both the above cases deal with bad health and huge investment into profession.
As for the Descendent, this rules others and all sides of this: war, peace, negotiation, all relationship karma, all your ethics in your work with others, level of respect shown for others, level of treatment of others, level of Justice shown for others etc. 7th is about your feats done in regards to other people, whether business, brotherly, or knightly ones - loyalty to your brothers in arms, to your spouse, nobility shown in battle, etc. Your karmic debts to others.
You have endless possibilities combining these two spheres. 6th deals with a lot things from ecology, hygiene and veterinary / domestic animals to serving others in every way or form, work sphere at all, serving society, absolutely all sphere of medicine from Ancient Pagan and TCM to modern and highly technological one. Unfortunately it rules diseases when messing up with 15 Leo. You have to do health workings all your life as well as protection ones.
Leo is also about all kinds of performative feats such as Performative arts and speeches before large masses of people, if politics then speeches on the TV screen before billions, being face of country / company. 7th house being very relative to negotiation and politics (official person negotiating 24/7).
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