Other #75673 When people like Tesla die

[AskSatanOperator]

How come when people like Tesla die, and reincarnate, they don't achieve the same level of fame and renown in their past lives? Presumably these people have reincarnated, such as Leonardo Da Vinci or something, but we don't hear about them a second time (someone who look's like them, continuing their work).

 

[arem]

How come when people like Tesla die, and reincarnate, they don't achieve the same level of fame and renown in their past lives? Presumably these people have reincarnated, such as Leonardo Da Vinci or something, but we don't hear about them a second time (someone who look's like them, continuing their work).

your question is based on many assumptions. they wouldn't have necessarily looked alike is the first one. a lot comes down to genetics.
astrological placements can give us certain talents too, so why assume he would be a scientist in every life time? maybe someone is born with talents for music and science, and they choose to pursue music instead. think of the environment; maybe someone was born in a family that could not financially support their education further a certain point. maybe they had great potential but were never encouraged to fulfill it.
on top of that, even assuming he would be a scientist, there are so many scientists (taking the tesla example, but Da Vinci also applies) that are doing important work who you probably never heard of, and perhaps never will unless you start studying the specific field they work in.

you get the idea by now that we can speculate all day long, but there is no way for us to make an educated guess, only hypothesize

 

[Henu the Great]

When exceptional people like Tesla 'die', they reincarnate to another world as they have completed their tasks here. I recall HPHC mentioning in the past that he specifically is in some other, more advanced world, at the moment.

 

[arem]

your question is based on many assumptions. they wouldn't have necessarily looked alike is the first one. a lot comes down to genetics.
astrological placements can give us certain talents too, so why assume he would be a scientist in every life time? maybe someone is born with talents for music and science, and they choose to pursue music instead. think of the environment; maybe someone was born in a family that could not financially support their education further a certain point. maybe they had great potential but were never encouraged to fulfill it.
on top of that, even assuming he would be a scientist, there are so many scientists (taking the tesla example, but Da Vinci also applies) that are doing important work who you probably never heard of, and perhaps never will unless you start studying the specific field they work in.

you get the idea by now that we can speculate all day long, but there is no way for us to make an educated guess, only hypothesize

to clarify, i wasn't talking about Tesla only, though i have used him as an example, but the general famous people, as I've seen those kinds of questions here too, I shouldn't have lumped them all together

 

[Astra Nam]

When exceptional people like Tesla 'die', they reincarnate to another world as they have completed their tasks here. I recall HPHC mentioning in the past that he specifically is in some other, more advanced world, at the moment.

Can you tell me more about this other world? Like is it a higher astral plane?

 

[OrionStarseed]

When exceptional people like Tesla 'die', they reincarnate to another world as they have completed their tasks here. I recall HPHC mentioning in the past that he specifically is in some other, more advanced world, at the moment.

I think this same goes for starseeds

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

When exceptional people like Tesla 'die', they reincarnate to another world as they have completed their tasks here. I recall HPHC mentioning in the past that he specifically is in some other, more advanced world, at the moment.

So planet hopping is possible. I thought all human souls were tied to earth and had to come back here.

 

[Henu the Great]

Can you tell me more about this other world? Like is it a higher astral plane?

It's like ours but at a higher vibrational level.

I think this same goes for starseeds

No such thing exists. It is made up.

So planet hopping is possible. I thought all human souls were tied to earth and had to come back here.

Let's put it this way: None shall live in this world longer than the time set by me; and if I so desire, I send a person a second or third time into this world or into some other by the transmigration of souls.

The Al Jilwah; The Black Book of Satan

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

It's like ours but at a higher vibrational level.


No such thing exists. It is made up.


Let's put it this way: None shall live in this world longer than the time set by me; and if I so desire, I send a person a second or third time into this world or into some other by the transmigration of souls.

The Al Jilwah; The Black Book of Satan

Regarding Father Satan’s quote, how does it relate to lethal curses? If someone is trying to curse to death someone else for whatever reason, will they ultimately require Father’s permission( for the curse to work, they don’t need to ask Him directly) to take that person’s life or will there be karmic reprucussions for taking that person’s life sooner than what was ordained for them?

This is actually one of the many reasons I avoid cursing people in lethal ways. I’d be getting in the way of their karmic path ordained to them by The Gods, so I generally prefer banishment as that doesn’t get in the way of their fate in a critical way which could then backfire to me.

It’s that question of how fate and free will work together, myths generally put the two together as the same thing, with those attempting to avoid the fate told to them ending up fulfilling it by their acts. Not sure how curses play into all this.

 

[OrionStarseed]

Oh wow okay thanks

 

[Antireligioso]

because people like Tesla worked with good aliens with Ea, where he created ultra-navanced patents reworked by him in his mind, for example the UFOs, and free Energy .. but the governments and Jewish leaders blocked him and quarantined where he died in loneliness and fear ... therefore through psychophysical trauma, his soul will have gone elsewhere and by divine will of the Gods .. perhaps he will be reborn in a planet where he had communications, so where there is an advanced and free civilization (no, the Semiretilian civilization in the earth, where the Jews are enriched simply by moving with a semi-reptilian fuel car).

 

[Henu the Great]

Regarding Father Satan’s quote, how does it relate to lethal curses? If someone is trying to curse to death someone else for whatever reason, will they ultimately require Father’s permission( for the curse to work, they don’t need to ask Him directly) to take that person’s life or will there be karmic reprucussions for taking that person’s life sooner than what was ordained for them?

This is actually one of the many reasons I avoid cursing people in lethal ways. I’d be getting in the way of their karmic path ordained to them by The Gods, so I generally prefer banishment as that doesn’t get in the way of their fate in a critical way which could then backfire to me.

It’s that question of how fate and free will work together, myths generally put the two together as the same thing, with those attempting to avoid the fate told to them ending up fulfilling it by their acts. Not sure how curses play into all this.

I want to start with a quote:

There is a positive and negative side to all things to keep them in balance --
to keep the Universe going. There are awful and terrible things that must happen, destructive deathly things, and there are good and miraculous things that must happen full of life and creative construction. It seems this would come to each randomly and it seems that it should continue this way for eternity. This is not true. And this is the essence of Who I Am.

The world is to evolve out of this. There is always another way to do a thing. That way is far away. But it is still a possible way. Destruction and terror will not always be the other way. But until the time comes when destruction and terror are removed the world you must work how the world works. Until that time, that will come in time, this is Me -- a PerfectBalance. This is necessary. Destruction and creation.

Since the time is not yet, and you are in the time that is not yet, destruction and creation are in your hands as they are Mine. Do not be afraid to do these things. Until the time comes where these things have found more peaceable means you must keep the earth in balance. Do not be afraid to destroy. Do not be afraid to create. LISTEN to Me. Create all of your being. Destroy with all of your being. You will not be more created by creating any more than you will be destroyed by destroying. Are you more created now? Are you here or are you destroyed? You are here. You will be here as long as I am here and that is forever. Listen to what I tell you. If I tell you to create -- do it. And do it with perfection and pleasure. And if I tell you to destroy, do it. Do not hesitate. Destroy with all of your might and pleasure; yes, I tell you to delight in what you have destroyed.

Spiritual Warfare Message from Satan

The above should be done in accordance with the Satanic Ethics: https://satanisgod.org/Satanic-Ethics.html

 

[Antireligioso]

Nowadays I mean as modern civilization, to create something costs a lot of money, even a structure something, and in general it is all private property of others (so perhaps the ancient Celts, Gauls had more freedom to create), so create little and if you destroy something even just out of anger they denounce you and also put you in prison, so this speech is an empty speech. that if limited to the mind / astral only works, for the rest calculating everything, it is better to stay silent and get by hoping to always live in health and everything

 

[Henu the Great]

Nowadays I mean as modern civilization, to create something costs a lot of money, even a structure something, and in general it is all private property of others (so perhaps the ancient Celts, Gauls had more freedom to create), so create little and if you destroy something even just out of anger they denounce you and also put you in prison, so this speech is an empty speech. that if limited to the mind / astral only works, for the rest calculating everything, it is better to stay silent and get by hoping to always live in health and everything

Unfortunately, you have not understood what Satanas is saying to us. Try to interpret it more figuratively next time.

 

[Pammy]

Nowadays I mean as modern civilization, to create something costs a lot of money, even a structure something, and in general it is all private property of others (so perhaps the ancient Celts, Gauls had more freedom to create), so create little and if you destroy something even just out of anger they denounce you and also put you in prison, so this speech is an empty speech. that if limited to the mind / astral only works, for the rest calculating everything, it is better to stay silent and get by hoping to always live in health and everything

You can create art, you can create life, you can nurture other living beings, you can invent and innovate. Did Da Vinci materialize everything he scratched?

Please do not vandalize public property.

 

[Antireligioso]

Yes, you're right, I didn't quite understand what Lucifer's speech means. however, I meant that physically you can create very little in modern civilization, unless you are an SS millionaire then this is another matter. Indeed, at least when the civilization was Gaulish, Celtic, two primitive but functional structures could be created where to live at no cost, and also live very free, so nowadays it is true that it is an intensive breeding of Souls, compared to how much freedom to create and do that the ancients had. Right now, if in a fight you hurt someone, complaints and even prison, in ancient times they could kill like this without consequences, therefore freedom to destroy. For example, a person defends himself but hurts, they also want monetary compensation with lots of complaints and bureaucratic messes, the ancients killed and washed their hands of it, now they want to become millionaires from the death of any one.
So yes, I say that with my mind I can destroy a person, but physically if I break something I would have big trouble, with compensation and all messes even physical prison, other than the ancients who killed themselves with swords, and did everything for honor and personal ethics of the group of warriors.

 

[Henu the Great]

Yes, you're right, I didn't quite understand what Lucifer's speech means. however, I meant that physically you can create very little in modern civilization, unless you are an SS millionaire then this is another matter. Indeed, at least when the civilization was Gaulish, Celtic, two primitive but functional structures could be created where to live at no cost, and also live very free, so nowadays it is true that it is an intensive breeding of Souls, compared to how much freedom to create and do that the ancients had. Right now, if in a fight you hurt someone, complaints and even prison, in ancient times they could kill like this without consequences, therefore freedom to destroy. For example, a person defends himself but hurts, they also want monetary compensation with lots of complaints and bureaucratic messes, the ancients killed and washed their hands of it, now they want to become millionaires from the death of any one.
So yes, I say that with my mind I can destroy a person, but physically if I break something I would have big trouble, with compensation and all messes even physical prison, other than the ancients who killed themselves with swords, and did everything for honor and personal ethics of the group of warriors.

Creation and destruction as a whole are more than buildings and items. It includes the abstract as well, such as art and other forms of actions by people.

 

[Impetigo]

How come when people like Tesla die, and reincarnate, they don't achieve the same level of fame and renown in their past lives? Presumably these people have reincarnated, such as Leonardo Da Vinci or something, but we don't hear about them a second time (someone who look's like them, continuing their work).

Somebody already did quote Satan here to explain this but also in the Al-Jilwah, it is mentioned that at certain times people will fulfill important, powerful roles, and at others it will be different souls (paraphrasing here).

A lot of what we experience and do is influenced and directed at least partially by the gods. Free will as many of us try to understand it, is incorrect, I believe. I've come to believe that a lot of our thoughts and feelings have sources that are outside of us - that they actually come telepathically from non human sources. In a sense there is fate - that we are destined to do certain things, and sometimes this may even be decided before we incarnate into our bodies or reach adulthood. There is a common idea that goes around that we kind of have an idea of the life we are going to live and that we may even accept it, all before coming here. I'm not sure how I feel about that but it is worth bringing the idea up as food for thought to make it easier to understand what we are talking about here - even if it isn't the truth and doesn't explain much - it is similar information to what must be true about our situations here as humans, and I think therefore can make it easier to piece together and accept the actual truth.

Also just because someone is in the public eye and history like Tesla, doing things that most of us agree were very important, does not necessarily make their life more important than.. any other. Even the way your actions in your own life affect humanity and the universe, as they trickle down with the "butterfly" or "domino/snowball" effect - they may be just as important as Tesla's were, or equal, or I suppose unequal.

One major folly I've discovered myself being guilty of is that for a while I was assuming I was capable of understanding Satan and the gods and the whole universe. From my human perspective I tried to create identities around Satan and other gods, which I realized were so limiting that I was doing both they and myself a disservice.

Some things we are incapable (yet) of, or not ready to, understand yet. If you try too hard you may do as I did and fill in the blanks with limiting or wrong information. This doesn't mean you should be content with being ignorant though, it just means you should check your work and be aware that you could err when trying to solve these mysteries. Patience may be key to finding the truth sometimes.

It is also possible, even though he may not be working on metaphysics or electrical stuff, that Tesla has reincarnated and is/was renowned in his life after being Nikola Tesla..