Thankyou for taking the time to respond to my question it is very much welcomed and appreciated, i have a better grip on things in terms of the satan being physical etc now thankyou, I do apologise my orignal post quoted from the qu'ret al-yezid in regards to the worshipping not the al jilwah...

This density is the physical plain a low vibrational energy field that coagulates matter as above so below is this reality "where its at" so to speak? SO our souls can only grow in power on the physical plain. New agers would ask where does that leave any sort of enlightenment in the picture...

They are quite aware for a band , triviumsfirst two albums were ecellenr but the Zionist agenda watersdown bands original messages

As an avid member of JOS for many years i have found myself coming back to the same core questions regarding his status as a being.. On the JOS website it quotes  jilwah which sort of puts father in the non physical elemental universal creator being who states there is no god but myself etc and...

So it's the30th today and the second new Moon this month in darkness, and Saturn is very present right now,I've had a crazy day today,anyone else been feeling the effects? Not been on the forums for a while I do hope everyone is doing well in their lives Viagn