Questions on this Faith to the clergy

[Skolva]

How exactly does Zeus/Baalzebul a figure of such cosmic significance, presumably in communion with diverse Gentiles cultures become relegated to a mere caricature within current day Jewish narratives?
A creator God to a God of flies??

How does a tribe of less than 0.1 % of the total population manage to turn the tides on 'apparently' the most powerful beings in the universe if the only help they have is from(as per HPHC) worms and parasites ET races ,why is their influence and impact on Gentile nations guided by these 'Universal Gods ' so disproportionately vast.
How does these 'Gods' dominion get so thoroughly undermined by worms and parasites?
If these people were truly under true gods and in practice of their teaching and Spiritualism,How do you get destroyed by the lowest of humanity if the said practices really gives you power greater to those without?

What's really the mechanisms used by such a minority group that reshaped the perception of a deity so central to the spiritual frameworks of others,
If they were truly built on truth/Satya then why fail so terribly to counter a statue built on feets of clay,
Are the gods’ actions contingent upon human invocation, or do they operate independently, guiding or abandoning their followers based on inscrutable criteria?
The framing of the "enemy/Jews" as insignificant in cosmic terms, while acknowledging their tangible control over societal structures feels like cope,
If Zeus Mammon controls wealth,the Jews have it,
Are they more deserving or something? Or are the gods power, dominion,control only limited to actions done by humanity in their name, Delusional or actual divine guidance?
𝐀𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐬𝐞 𝐆𝐨𝐝𝐬 𝐢𝐧𝐟𝐥𝐮𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞/𝐩𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫 𝐝𝐞𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐇𝐮𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐝𝐨𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫

Divine favour/Human agency,what's truly superior and in need of more attention.

What purpose do the gods rituals serve other than worship or reverence in comparison to old JOS rituals on survival and warfare which I still fail to see how are they so outdated by the current primal realities of existence.
And no I am not asking for us to step back into survival mode, it's very much beside the topic
Do we and Jews serve different aspects of the same God/ Gods who creates and ruins his creation, because that's honestly more logical at this point,

Am I wrong to see TOZ as more passive and overly optimistic in comparison to JOS ,I mean don't worry Zevists ,the gods will definitely intervene if the Jews were to turn the world into some hunger games dystopia or everyone gets bogged,??
There's more urgency in cure than prevention?

 

[Blitzkreig [TG]]

How exactly does Zeus/Baalzebul a figure of such cosmic significance, presumably in communion with diverse Gentiles cultures become relegated to a mere caricature within current day Jewish narratives?
A creator God to a God of flies??

How does a tribe of less than 0.1 % of the total population manage to turn the tides on 'apparently' the most powerful beings in the universe if the only help they have is from(as per HPHC) worms and parasites ET races ,why is their influence and impact on Gentile nations guided by these 'Universal Gods ' so disproportionately vast.
How does these 'Gods' dominion get so thoroughly undermined by worms and parasites?
If these people were truly under true gods and in practice of their teaching and Spiritualism,How do you get destroyed by the lowest of humanity if the said practices really gives you power greater to those without?

What's really the mechanisms used by such a minority group that reshaped the perception of a deity so central to the spiritual frameworks of others,
If they were truly built on truth/Satya then why fail so terribly to counter a statue built on feets of clay,
Are the gods’ actions contingent upon human invocation, or do they operate independently, guiding or abandoning their followers based on inscrutable criteria?
The framing of the "enemy/Jews" as insignificant in cosmic terms, while acknowledging their tangible control over societal structures feels like cope,
If Zeus Mammon controls wealth,the Jews have it,
Are they more deserving or something? Or are the gods power, dominion,control only limited to actions done by humanity in their name, Delusional or actual divine guidance?
𝐀𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐬𝐞 𝐆𝐨𝐝𝐬 𝐢𝐧𝐟𝐥𝐮𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞/𝐩𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫 𝐝𝐞𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐇𝐮𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐝𝐨𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫

Divine favour/Human agency,what's truly superior and in need of more attention.

What purpose do the gods rituals serve other than worship or reverence in comparison to old JOS rituals on survival and warfare which I still fail to see how are they so outdated by the current primal realities of existence.
And no I am not asking for us to step back into survival mode, it's very much beside the topic
Do we and Jews serve different aspects of the same God/ Gods who creates and ruins his creation, because that's honestly more logical at this point,

Am I wrong to see TOZ as more passive and overly optimistic in comparison to JOS ,I mean don't worry Zevists ,the gods will definitely intervene if the Jews were to turn the world into some hunger games dystopia or everyone gets bogged,??
There's more urgency in cure than prevention?

To answer your question simply: The Gods can help, but ultimately, the affairs of our domain are up to us. And, because they are up to us, it would make sense that we work on our own spiritual state and personal quality, so that any problems become naturally resolved and bypassed.

The rituals of the Gods are much better for personal growth than simply removing enemy curses. You are connecting with the highest entities in the universe to accelerate your own growth and that of others, improving your odds at preventing any damage caused by the enemy.

Therefore, it the opposite of your suggestion that we are being overly passive or reliant on the Gods. Instead, we are growing more self-sufficient than ever before, improving our odds at detecting and winning any self-defense scenarios.

 

[Henu the Great]

What's really the mechanisms used by such a minority group that reshaped the perception of a deity so central to the spiritual frameworks of others

The timing, combined with the fact that the masses were rather easily deceived, as they held no high level of spiritual advancement, unlike priests. Masses had no telepathic communication or microchip technology as a substitute for telepathy back then. Altruism and compassion were used as weak points. Subversion occured over centuries, centuries turned to a millennia, and so on.

𝐀𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐬𝐞 𝐆𝐨𝐝𝐬 𝐢𝐧𝐟𝐥𝐮𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞/𝐩𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫 𝐝𝐞𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐇𝐮𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐝𝐨𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫

You can be the Supreme Lord, but when your followers do not follow you any longer, what is there to be done? Free will and the consequences thereof are a thing.

Divine favour/Human agency,what's truly superior and in need of more attention.

Bot together, really.

What purpose do the gods rituals serve other than worship or reverence in comparison to old JOS rituals on survival and warfare which I still fail to see how are they so outdated by the current primal realities of existence.

Blessings so that we might grow and overcome this pestilence we are suffering from.

 

[Hárbarðr]

How exactly does Zeus/Baalzebul a figure of such cosmic significance, presumably in communion with diverse Gentiles cultures become relegated to a mere caricature within current day Jewish narratives?

Your view of the Gods is Abrahamic. You think they are beings who control everything, when this isn't the case. Especially when there are extraterrestrial enemies with power equal to them. The jews aren't mere humans, they are supported by higher beings of their own. And our Gods happened to have lost a battle in the past, as the website said.

I mean don't worry Zevists ,the gods will definitely intervene if the Jews were to turn the world into some hunger games dystopia or everyone gets bogged,??

Nobody said such thing. Years ago, in HP Maxine's time the Gods informed her that the jews' source of power (i.e. the jewish messiah thoughtform) was destroyed and without it, the jews can't take over the world. They can't gain power. They also told her they can't do anything more than die out. That's why she said, quoting Satan "we have won". This is what she meant, and she explained that story in the groups at the time it happened.

So their fate has been sealed already. Look at the news, the jews get exposed everywhere and they are panicking, so they are trying to pass anti-semitism laws in the US. This isn't the move of someone who is confident that they have power, it's of someone who is dying and trying to desperately grasp some control.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

If you look at the places where jewish religions succeeded (Western Hemisphere) vs the places where they didn't (India, South East Asia excluding indonesia). You'll find that the places that resisted xianity and islam were far more into meditations and vibrations while the ones that fell were for the most part focused on prayer and ritual rather than spiritual advacement.

I personally blame the Pagan initiates in those places such as Europe and the Middle East for hoarding all that knowledge rather than sharing it with the plebs so the plebs can advance themselves. No wonder the plebs fell so easily for the jewish nonsense.

The systems in place were already ripe for a jewish spiritual takeover.

Jews as a collective vibrate and practise religion to truly change upon the world. The Pagan world especially in Europe and the Middle-east consisted mainly of uneducated plebs who had little to no spiritual knowledge and the few philospher initiates who remained elitist and taught the mysteries to a few.

We're living with the consequences of this elitism in the West...

India was a different story. Meditation and chanting was and still is very widespread and that is why Hinduism survived 1000 years of Islamic rule while the Roman empire just bent to super-jew 300 years after xianity was formulated.


"It was forced on them", yeah by who? jews? Other xian Gentiles! By the time xianity was forced it was already the majority religion and had the physical power to do that enforcing.

Look how easily we were able to fight back now that anyone can access this knowledge and are able to collectivise and spiritually fight back. The reason we're in this situation is because the few hoarded the knowledge while the many weren't even able to read back then. Hiding a lot of the spiritual knowledge behind mythological allegories which seem like nonsense to your average pleb was also another major reason xianity and islam took hold.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

Japan also resisted xian conversion because of the Shinto-Buddhist tradition, which included meditating and vibrating.

Pretty much all the places that meditated and truly connected to their inner selves and the Gods successfully resisted the jewish spiritual viruses.

 

[zeussoldatin]

This is nothing to get worried about here, but simply a Jewish troll playing a clever game of intellectual barstardizing.

 

[Skolva]

This is nothing to get worried about here, but simply a Jewish troll playing a clever game of intellectual barstardizing.

Does everyone who 'asks' click as a Jew to you?

 

[Giorno di Sole]

I personally blame the Pagan initiates in those places such as Europe and the Middle East for hoarding all that knowledge rather than sharing it with the plebs so the plebs can advance themselves. No wonder the plebs fell so easily for the jewish nonsense.

The systems in place were already ripe for a jewish spiritual takeover.

Jews as a collective vibrate and practise religion to truly change upon the world. The Pagan world especially in Europe and the Middle-east consisted mainly of uneducated plebs who had little to no spiritual knowledge and the few philospher initiates who remained elitist and taught the mysteries to a few.

You are writing nonsense here. The mysteries were open to the masses, even to slaves.

 

[Giorno di Sole]

The 5 Ages & Zeus

In the Ancient texts, in particular and in Hesiod's work, there are texts that say that the Gods, when they see humanity plunged in wickedness, are engaging in the following processes to save them or redeem them, or create them from the beginning. I will tell you the truth in this topic which...

ancient-forums.com

 

[Hárbarðr]

Years ago, in HP Maxine's time the Gods informed her that the jews' source of power (i.e. the jewish messiah thoughtform) was destroyed and without it, the jews can't take over the world. They can't gain power. They also told her they can't do anything more than die out. That's why she said, quoting Satan "we have won". This is what she meant, and she explained that story in the groups at the time it happened.

This is the post where she said that in 2011, by the way:

Why are they still here?

When you look on JoS, you see that it says that we won the war against the kikes, that there is no need to take any more action then the action of becoming a Spiritual Satanist. If we have "won" the war, than why are we still being attacked by them? Why id there still war going on in the world...

ancient-forums.com

The Powers of Hell have let me know that this kike messiah has been taken out and now all the enemy can do is wither away and die, but this is the death grip. Much has not yet happened. The enemy cannot get control without their messiah. They WILL fight until the very last, though and everyone needs to know this, as it is far from over.

I do know the Powers of Hell are now preparing for world take-over, as we have won. This will be a time of freedom and peace for humanity, with everyone on a higher spiritual level. This is why it is so important to wake people up out there about the enemy, xianity and bring them to Satan [of their own free will]. As I wrote before- when the truth can no longer be suppressed, many will want to join on at the last minute, but it will be too late. Consistent meditation is the key and transformation of the soul. Satan is going to populate the earth with spiritually advanced humans. Through our rituals, spiritual warfare, and working to destroy the enemy, much needless suffering can be prevented.

HP Maxine never claimed that we are doing the RTR's to stop the jews from taking over, because she already knew they're on the way out. She instead said we're doing them so they may go away faster.

So, she had the same level of optimism that we do. Nothing is contradictory here.

 

[Voice of Enki [TG]]

Your view of the Gods is Abrahamic. You think they are beings who control everything, when this isn't the case. Especially when there are extraterrestrial enemies with power equal to them. The jews aren't mere humans, they are supported by higher beings of their own. And our Gods happened to have lost a battle in the past, as the website said.

When you look at what the High Gods really are, especially Zeus, you see that they are in fact Supreme Cosmic beings, who do control everything ultimately, as they are Gods.

The abrahamic view of God is entirely stolen from our original religions which predated them by thousands of years here on Earth.

Zeus, The Eternal One, by all His many Names, is a Pan Dimensional Supreme being.

See what the Ancient Greeks wrote about him, or see what the Hindu's wrote about Visnu (one of the three parts of Zeus in Hinduism), or what is known about Amun and Atum from Egypt.

This understanding of God was normal back in the past, and is completely true.

When you look at all the Ancient materials, you will see how literally everything in the abrahamic religions is stolen and then twisted and perverted from the original religions that followed Satya, the True God Zeus and the Spiritual Path.

Nothing jews have is original, except for the perverse and odious aspects of the abrahamic nonsense they have written and follow.

Even their spiritual power, the secret rituals only a handful of rabbi's know and use constantly to bless their people, which allowed jews to be in this position they are in today, is based on stolen ancient knowledge from Ancient Egypt and Ancient Greece.

When you do Real Magic, you see how this is. More powerful than anything the jews have, and fully restored materials are available on the Hall of Osiris again today, thanks to God Osiris and High Priest HoodedCobra.


Fact is, humans caused the Age of Fall. Andrapoda tore down the Temples of the Gods, rejected the True Spiritual Path, and went down the wrong trajectory.

Jews just profited from this situation, using the self inflicted downfall by our own people as a stepping stone to get ahead of the rest.

Gods let things play out, because this is deserved. Humans are stupid, and so they face the consequences of this. Experience the Age of Fall.

Basically, humans call for Tartarus, and the Gods let them experience Tartarus on Earth. The Dark Ages.

Everything is still in the hands of the Gods, but they do not coddle us like little babies. They guide the worthy people to grow and become as Gods, and they seek for humans to advance towards Godhood.

One does not become Divine through comfort, but through strife and overcoming insurmountable odds.

Therefore, Gods have a mostly hands off approach. Let humans live, and help those who seek Them out directly, but don't do the major things for humanity, let humanity figure out how to keep itself upright and take the right actions.

Especially if humanity rejects The Gods, why should They care?

Let humans suffer the consequences of their actions, not as punishment, but per the manifestation of Universal Laws.

All actions have a reaction. Rejecting The Gods, means rejecting all Their teachings and Blessings, means rejecting the Blessings of the Pan Dimensional Creator, and thus it means ultimate suffering, Life becomes Tartarus.

Without Gods, Life is not worth living at all. They sustain everything, both inside ourselves and outside ourselves.


As for aliens being on par with our Gods, that isn't true at all.

I know it was implied at some point, but this is completely wrong.

The aliens whom jews aligned themselves with are nothing compared to The Gods, even compared to Demons. These creatures are stuck on lower dimensions, cannot even touch the Gods.

The situation with Gods is far deeper than most people realize. How they judge, how they act, what they do for us, how the enemy relates in this, it is a lot different than most seem to understand.

High Priest HoodedCobra has explained a lot of this, if you go through his sermons of the past couple of years. Everything is worth reading.

I come to my current understanding from a combination of meditation, doing the God Rituals, and reflecting on the knowledge shared by HPHC.

 

[Skolva]

To answer your question simply: The Gods can help, but ultimately, the affairs of our domain are up to us. And, because they are up to us, it would make sense that we work on our own spiritual state and personal quality, so that any problems become naturally resolved and bypassed.

The rituals of the Gods are much better for personal growth than simply removing enemy curses. You are connecting with the highest entities in the universe to accelerate your own growth and that of others, improving your odds at preventing any damage caused by the enemy.

Therefore, it the opposite of your suggestion that we are being overly passive or reliant on the Gods. Instead, we are growing more self-sufficient than ever before, improving our odds at detecting and winning any self-defense scenarios.

Thank you for the clarification

 

[Skolva]

When you look at what the High Gods really are, especially Zeus, you see that they are in fact Supreme Cosmic beings, who do control everything ultimately, as they are Gods.

The abrahamic view of God is entirely stolen from our original religions which predated them by thousands of years here on Earth.

Zeus, The Eternal One, by all His many Names, is a Pan Dimensional Supreme being.

See what the Ancient Greeks wrote about him, or see what the Hindu's wrote about Visnu (one of the three parts of Zeus in Hinduism), or what is known about Amun and Atum from Egypt.

This understanding of God was normal back in the past, and is completely true.

When you look at all the Ancient materials, you will see how literally everything in the abrahamic religions is stolen and then twisted and perverted from the original religions that followed Satya, the True God Zeus and the Spiritual Path.

Nothing jews have is original, except for the perverse and odious aspects of the abrahamic nonsense they have written and follow.

Even their spiritual power, the secret rituals only a handful of rabbi's know and use constantly to bless their people, which allowed jews to be in this position they are in today, is based on stolen ancient knowledge from Ancient Egypt and Ancient Greece.

When you do Real Magic, you see how this is. More powerful than anything the jews have, and fully restored materials are available on the Hall of Osiris again today, thanks to God Osiris and High Priest HoodedCobra.


Fact is, humans caused the Age of Fall. Andrapoda tore down the Temples of the Gods, rejected the True Spiritual Path, and went down the wrong trajectory.

Jews just profited from this situation, using the self inflicted downfall by our own people as a stepping stone to get ahead of the rest.

Gods let things play out, because this is deserved. Humans are stupid, and so they face the consequences of this. Experience the Age of Fall.

Basically, humans call for Tartarus, and the Gods let them experience Tartarus on Earth. The Dark Ages.

Everything is still in the hands of the Gods, but they do not coddle us like little babies. They guide the worthy people to grow and become as Gods, and they seek for humans to advance towards Godhood.

One does not become Divine through comfort, but through strife and overcoming insurmountable odds.

Therefore, Gods have a mostly hands off approach. Let humans live, and help those who seek Them out directly, but don't do the major things for humanity, let humanity figure out how to keep itself upright and take the right actions.

Especially if humanity rejects The Gods, why should They care?

Let humans suffer the consequences of their actions, not as punishment, but per the manifestation of Universal Laws.

All actions have a reaction. Rejecting The Gods, means rejecting all Their teachings and Blessings, means rejecting the Blessings of the Pan Dimensional Creator, and thus it means ultimate suffering, Life becomes Tartarus.

Without Gods, Life is not worth living at all. They sustain everything, both inside ourselves and outside ourselves.


As for aliens being on par with our Gods, that isn't true at all.

I know it was implied at some point, but this is completely wrong.

The aliens whom jews aligned themselves with are nothing compared to The Gods, even compared to Demons. These creatures are stuck on lower dimensions, cannot even touch the Gods.

The situation with Gods is far deeper than most people realize. How they judge, how they act, what they do for us, how the enemy relates in this, it is a lot different than most seem to understand.

High Priest HoodedCobra has explained a lot of this, if you go through his sermons of the past couple of years. Everything is worth reading.

I come to my current understanding from a combination of meditation, doing the God Rituals, and reflecting on the knowledge shared by HPHC.

Hello,,thank you need to clarify something here too
I am trying to grasp how these Universal laws you've brought up function or just constructs
You mentioned that humans caused the Age of Fall by rejecting the True Gods, leading to the Dark Ages as a consequence of their actions. I get the idea that the Gods take a hands-off approach, letting humanity face the results of its choices per Universal Laws. But it seems like the ones who suffered most during the Dark Ages were often the pagans—those still connected to the True Gods. If Andrapoda called forth Tartarus by rejecting the Gods, why did those who remained faithful, culturally and spiritually, end up bearing the brunt of that suffering? Why in this instant do we see the pious being punished alongside or even instead of the guilty.

Also I don’t expect the Gods to coddle humanity if they’re forgotten, its logical and we won't really evolve, but it feels different when the Gods themselves are actively erased from human consciousness, and noticeably in this reality and age through force or manipulation. You say the Gods control everything ultimately, yet distance them from the reality we see and blaming humanity entirely feels contradictory when the has more applicable and effective help from their side, doesn't seem fair ?. So why are they Gods exactly ?
It’s hard to see justice and Karma in a setup where the faithful endure Tartarus while those who reject the Gods seem to thrive, at least materially in real life,

Also when you say'The abrahamic view of God is entirely stolen from our original religions which predated them by thousands of years here on Earth'

You mean that thing they practice is anything close to the true religions?????
And their view of God, That's Zeus??

Leaning beliefs that way just feels ambiguous,gives the same 'unfalsifiable faith' ideas in Abrahamic but I guess that framework is copied too,
Becomes very hard to pinpoint what's truly going on,

Take this as no attack,
Just a guy trying to figure out what's the good news

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

I come to my current understanding from a combination of meditation, doing the God Rituals, and reflecting on the knowledge shared by HPHC.

But have the Gods spoken to you? What exactly does it take to reach the state where one could just talk to Satan/Zeus or any God/Demon, for that matter?

Can't you talk to them in the astral? HPS Maxine mentions seeing Satan/Zeus as a human being, talking to Him as if you were talking to a human in the physical world, but in the astral. HPHC mentioned Satan taking him by the hand and showing him things.


Maybe most Zevists here aren't worthy yet to talk to a God, but just about any spirit aligned with Zeus will do for me. Just some form of direct communication where I'm not second-guessing the information relayed to me.

Wouldn't them just telling us things be the most accurate way of figuring things out?

This whole "what feels right and figure it out by yourself through research" process has so many problems to it that I don't even know where to start regarding listing them all. This is how people formed many different conclusions on just about anything. That's how xians, muslims, jews, hindus and even Zevists here actually come to contradictory conclusions on several topics, all claiming to be "guided" to their opposing conclusions...

I'm also not a big fan of divination due to the power of human mental suggestion and unconcious actions completey screwing the whole process. You can never be sure that it was a God and not your subconscious driving your body to make this or that move in the "divination" session.

I always preferred getting into a trance, opening my third eye and just being shown things or told things, but even then, I'm sure how to know it wasn't just my head making stuff up. HPHC mentioned that there is a process to differentiate between the two in one of his sermons but decided for some reason to keep that method secret... Why he decided to do that is something I'm not sure about. Jews can't abuse that knowledge for obvious reasons, and Zevists would only benefit from knowing this method by coming to more accurate conclusions, as they can now know the difference between a God talking and their head making things up.

I appreciate HP's Sermons, but I want to know what it takes to actually speak to a God rather than relying on indirect or unreliable methods or "feelings".

I guess what I'm asking is how to make sure the knowledge you receive on those matters is fully accurate.

 

[Skolva]

. You say the Gods control everything ultimately, yet distance them from the reality we see and blaming humanity entirely feels contradictory when the******* has more applicable and effective help from their side, doesn't seem fair ?. So why are they Gods exactly ?

*****The enemy/Jews

 

[Henu the Great]

But have the Gods spoken to you? What exactly does it take to reach the state where one could just talk to Satan/Zeus or any God/Demon, for that matter?

Can't you talk to them in the astral? HPS Maxine mentions seeing Satan/Zeus as a human being, talking to Him as if you were talking to a human in the physical world, but in the astral. HPHC mentioned Satan taking him by the hand and showing him things.


Maybe most Zevists here aren't worthy yet to talk to a God, but just about any spirit aligned with Zeus will do for me. Just some form of direct communication where I'm not second-guessing the information relayed to me.

Wouldn't them just telling us things be the most accurate way of figuring things out?

This whole "what feels right and figure it out by yourself through research" process has so many problems to it that I don't even know where to start regarding listing them all. This is how people formed many different conclusions on just about anything. That's how xians, muslims, jews, hindus and even Zevists here actually come to contradictory conclusions on several topics, all claiming to be "guided" to their opposing conclusions...

I'm also not a big fan of divination due to the power of human mental suggestion and unconcious actions completey screwing the whole process. You can never be sure that it was a God and not your subconscious driving your body to make this or that move in the "divination" session.

I always preferred getting into a trance, opening my third eye and just being shown things or told things, but even then, I'm sure how to know it wasn't just my head making stuff up. HPHC mentioned that there is a process to differentiate between the two in one of his sermons but decided for some reason to keep that method secret... Why he decided to do that is something I'm not sure about. Jews can't abuse that knowledge for obvious reasons, and Zevists would only benefit from knowing this method by coming to more accurate conclusions, as they can now know the difference between a God talking and their head making things up.

I appreciate HP's Sermons, but I want to know what it takes to actually speak to a God rather than relying on indirect or unreliable methods or "feelings".

I guess what I'm asking is how to make sure the knowledge you receive on those matters is fully accurate.

At least relatively open, clean, and empowered astral points. Overall purity of the soul has to be high to very high, which means very little to no profanity in the mind and soul.

You mentioned a psychological filter concerning communication. That too is something to do with experience in meditation and purity of the mind and soul.

The above is something that people outside of Zevism very rarely have, and even among Zevists, this is a great feat to achieve.

 

[Voice of Enki [TG]]

Hello,,thank you need to clarify something here too
I am trying to grasp how these Universal laws you've brought up function or just constructs
You mentioned that humans caused the Age of Fall by rejecting the True Gods, leading to the Dark Ages as a consequence of their actions. I get the idea that the Gods take a hands-off approach, letting humanity face the results of its choices per Universal Laws. But it seems like the ones who suffered most during the Dark Ages were often the pagans—those still connected to the True Gods. If Andrapoda called forth Tartarus by rejecting the Gods, why did those who remained faithful, culturally and spiritually, end up bearing the brunt of that suffering? Why in this instant do we see the pious being punished alongside or even instead of the guilty.

Also I don’t expect the Gods to coddle humanity if they’re forgotten, its logical and we won't really evolve, but it feels different when the Gods themselves are actively erased from human consciousness, and noticeably in this reality and age through force or manipulation. You say the Gods control everything ultimately, yet distance them from the reality we see and blaming humanity entirely feels contradictory when the has more applicable and effective help from their side, doesn't seem fair ?. So why are they Gods exactly ?
It’s hard to see justice and Karma in a setup where the faithful endure Tartarus while those who reject the Gods seem to thrive, at least materially in real life,

Also when you say'The abrahamic view of God is entirely stolen from our original religions which predated them by thousands of years here on Earth'

You mean that thing they practice is anything close to the true religions?????
And their view of God, That's Zeus??

Leaning beliefs that way just feels ambiguous,gives the same 'unfalsifiable faith' ideas in Abrahamic but I guess that framework is copied too,
Becomes very hard to pinpoint what's truly going on,

Take this as no attack,
Just a guy trying to figure out what's the good news

I think this is a case of false equivalency. During the dark ages, the average person lived a really shit and low quality life. Everyone suffered.
Inquisitions and such were indeed especially bad towards people who were not xian, but, they killed just as many unrelated people or people of other xian beliefs than people who weren't xian. Disease and plagues also ran rampant, almost completely ended civilization at some point, the ones who suffered were of all walks of life, nobody was really saved.

We can comfortably say when looking at history, the reason we continue existing and eventually got out of this hole is because powerful and capable souls kept reincarnating and did their best to rectify the situation, with help from the Gods, and the Gods through their unseen hand have continued to assist humanity through these times.

I know many of us have had it quite difficult during a number of incarnations, but aren't we still here? Whatever has happened, we have survived it, and became stronger for it.

Humans did not need to become bloodthirsty zealots that went out torturing and murdering people for arbitrary reasons, or because some priest told them so. Yet, many gentiles did so with relish. Perhaps in a next life, if they had one, such criminal souls reincarnate into a poor village of pagans, which is targeted by an inquisition next, and they will be at the receiving end of the sword which they pointed towards innocents in their previous life. Such is the flow of Karma.

At the same time, when you resist the entropic decay, you also pay a price for this, as you have to bear the brunt of these forces, and fight them off yourself. Thus, you take on risks and danger by trying to stay true to the Gods in times of excessive Fall, however, this is also a choice of bravery and shows strength. Perhaps because the the times, these people will suffer in that life, unfortunately, however, in a next life they incarnate into better families, well off, and away from the sufferings of others.

Gods take care of their own. Souls generally are very resilient, you can survive a lot of very damning things, and fully overcome them, even get stronger through it. Now, we are here, and we are able to pull the extra weight needed to turn around the fate of the world. In an Age of Fall, one can choose to be weak willed and go along with the odious regime in charge, or try to go a different path. It is during an Age like that where real heroic Souls are forged. Through strife and overcoming odds. We also had choices to avoid hardship and be comfortable, but those of us here did not. For this, you are also rewarded in ways that no Earthly matter can ever compare with. This is ultimate fairness.

All riches or comforts in the world are meaningless and worthless before the Godhead, and other Blessings from the Gods. The enemy can be as lavish as they wish, but in the end they exist without substance, empty and vain, and without purpose, which is an ultimate suffering. They are more miserable than anyone really, especially when the comfortable dream comes to an end at the end of their life and they meet the Gods on the other side, who will now judge them for the things done in life, and send them to the appropriate place.


When I speak of the "abrahamic view" of God, I am speaking on the omnipotent nature the enemy attributes to their false imaginary thoughtforms and entities.

This realization of God, an Almighty being beyond the universe itself, and from whom all Creation is born, is entirely stolen from the Original Ancient religions.
This is how Zeus is Known to the Greeks, and how He is known to the other Ancient cultures by His many Names. Zeus is The Almighty One.

Enemy merely stole that idea and attempted to replace the image of Zeus with something else entirely in the minds of people, however, this did not work and could not work, because one cannot put a façade over the Gods.

This is why the enemy places such importance on materialism, such as idols, prophets rather than Gods, and places the focal point of worship on the humans, people they designate as saints or like a pope, and actually try to have "God" take a backseat, emphasis is instead on the image of jewsus, to try and funnel the beliefs of people (Power of Belief is exceptionally strong), into images of suffering, misery and death, which creates this entropic vortex that sucks the life out of society, causing suffering and misery to manifest everywhere.

However, as you can see, no matter what the enemy did try, our Gods have always been known to those who were really with Them, and we are here once more to honour them appropriately again. Erasing this did not work, and would not work. Zeus and other Gods had been worshipped under many different names throughout time, even throughout the Dark Ages, under different names, Such as Satan and Baal, and by different people, tribes in the Middle East, pagans throughout Europe, or privately in secret by secret sects or individual practitioners who discarded the abrahamic nonsense privately and secretly worshipped the True Gods.

Unseen and Unheard by the masses, the Gods have continued to assist humanity, even during the worst of times. Considering how humans had treated the people of the Gods for so long, even before the Age of Fall, this is already very merciful, and it happened because people kept trying to worship them despite of all the opposition that was faced. Had people really forgotten, or discarded Them, then this world would simply be doomed. It would go on and remain miserable until the next reset, and civilization would start anew, like what happened in the end with Atlantis.

Thousands of years is a significant amount of time from our perspective, but from the perspective of Zeus, this is literally nothing.


I understand the confusion, because the extend by which the jews have stolen and perverted things is truly shocking. Everything, from their alphabet, to the names they use in worship, are all stolen concepts, perverted and twisted to be "their way", based on real spiritual knowledge which they have kept secret and to themselves, that they had also stolen.

What you should understand from this is, Real Gods exist, and the original religions have none of the filth, degeneracy and odious nature that the jews inserted into the stolen materials they repurposed for indoctrination of the andrapoda into false systems of belief that lead people nowhere except to Death and ultimate suffering.


You ask, Why are they Gods? What kind of question is that?

When you see a Being in a dimension unfathomable to human consciousness, who is literally the Source of Everything, All in All, literally the entire Universe exists inside of His creation and will, can that be anything else than a God? This is the realization of God, of Zeus, as he was understood by the Ancients for Thousands of Years, before jews even took their first breath in history.

We have just completed the Ritual Schedule with the Grand Ritual of Zeus, where this has become more abundantly clear than ever to be completely real.

I am also done beating around the bush about this too. For too long people have completely misappropriated Zeus and diminished Him, because small minded humans are more comfortable that way or whatever, while jews parade around some retarded imaginary thoughtform being and claim it to be greater than Zeus, an Almighty Creator, which is completely laughable and absolutely ridiculous.

No more nonsense, it is time to get real now.

 

[Voice of Enki [TG]]

But have the Gods spoken to you? What exactly does it take to reach the state where one could just talk to Satan/Zeus or any God/Demon, for that matter?

Can't you talk to them in the astral? HPS Maxine mentions seeing Satan/Zeus as a human being, talking to Him as if you were talking to a human in the physical world, but in the astral. HPHC mentioned Satan taking him by the hand and showing him things.


Maybe most Zevists here aren't worthy yet to talk to a God, but just about any spirit aligned with Zeus will do for me. Just some form of direct communication where I'm not second-guessing the information relayed to me.

Wouldn't them just telling us things be the most accurate way of figuring things out?

This whole "what feels right and figure it out by yourself through research" process has so many problems to it that I don't even know where to start regarding listing them all. This is how people formed many different conclusions on just about anything. That's how xians, muslims, jews, hindus and even Zevists here actually come to contradictory conclusions on several topics, all claiming to be "guided" to their opposing conclusions...

I'm also not a big fan of divination due to the power of human mental suggestion and unconcious actions completey screwing the whole process. You can never be sure that it was a God and not your subconscious driving your body to make this or that move in the "divination" session.

I always preferred getting into a trance, opening my third eye and just being shown things or told things, but even then, I'm sure how to know it wasn't just my head making stuff up. HPHC mentioned that there is a process to differentiate between the two in one of his sermons but decided for some reason to keep that method secret... Why he decided to do that is something I'm not sure about. Jews can't abuse that knowledge for obvious reasons, and Zevists would only benefit from knowing this method by coming to more accurate conclusions, as they can now know the difference between a God talking and their head making things up.

I appreciate HP's Sermons, but I want to know what it takes to actually speak to a God rather than relying on indirect or unreliable methods or "feelings".

I guess what I'm asking is how to make sure the knowledge you receive on those matters is fully accurate.

Yes, they have spoken to me, and yes, I can see them very regularly in meditation. We tell people to try this as well, because, if one actually follows the Spiritual Path, and trains in the Methods from the Temple of Zeus, anyone can get in real contact with Gods, but the issue lies with people who do not really follow the Spiritual Path and just play around instead. They might claim to be very dedicated or whatever, but they do not advance or practice in reality.

Even when one practices, hard work is needed to achieve something. At least a decade of real advancement is needed to reach a point where you can make real conclusions and realizations. That said, you can feel the Gods, and feel the Blessings or the Powers of these beings to various degrees much earlier.

Gods can come to you in many forms, they adapt to your situation most of the time, to slowly open your limited and diminished consciousness more and more, which will eventually allow someone to perceive them fully.

Divination is indeed something which should be reserved for a significantly advanced practitioner. But people will try it anyways, and then Timmy who has meditated for 3 months does a pendulum reading and asks if Zeus is Satan, and then the pendulum swings no, and now Timmy thinks we, the Temple of Zeus are wrong or something.

While in reality, we who have been on Earth for longer than I can remember, and have been with the Gods for many lifetimes, who have advanced and meditated for many decades, and reached real accomplishments through lifetimes of effort, hardship and growth, understand things better than any other humans.

Timmy doesn't need to accept this if Timmy is not comfortable accepting this, however, we are not going to slow down to keep Timmy comfortable. We will go on ahead without Timmy if he wants to remain stuck in the limited and comfortable reality he imagines in his little head.


Do you see who you are talking about, when you mention the people that have such experiences of direct communication? HPS Maxine. HP HoodedCobra.
High Priests of the Gods, Spiritually Advanced beyond any of us. Do you think every random initiate can receive communication clearly just because they want it?

It isn't so easy. Doesn't mean it cannot be achieved, but you have to work for this, not just a few months, or a year, but actually work for this, and have purpose in this, not merely curiosity. High Priests are shown many things, because they need to know and understand many things to lead the Temple of the Gods, and succeed in their work and mission here.

Regular initiates do not need to know and see things to the same extend, because they just need to keep meditating and living their life bit by bit to improve and grow as human beings.


When you have real experience, and have sufficient advancement, you know the difference between what comes from the mind and what comes from the Gods. This is abundantly clear. You simply know it, there is no doubt. The results of real divination and real communication speak for themselves. There is no nonsense, only Satya, real manifestation, real Blessings, real things.

Such as one time I asked the Gods to save my dying grandmother who was pronounced dead in the hospital, and she was literally given new life in front of my eyes. Not a normal healing of giving vitality and life, but a literal change of fate, allowing for 1 more year of life, in comfort, beyond what was her natural fated lifespan. That is real manifestation, speaks for itself. Real power, and an image I will never forget. It was just a taste of what is possible, and a mercy shown to my grandmother because I desperately wanted her to have a more dignified end to her life, rather than what she was given that time. With knowledge from the Gods, and with their power they can easily give someone hundreds of years of life, but this is something which must be earned first, and not many will actually receive such a Blessing in their life, but these are extremely possible.


When I asked to understand who is Satan, what is Satan really, what does it mean to be All in All, and I see myself get forcibly dragged out of my body, shown the entire Universe unfold before my eyes, and see All under the will of Satan, who is Zeus.

Not something I can merely imagine, but shocking vision with direct answer that completely shatters all previous notions and understanding, making way for real understanding and realization, outside the comfort zone, and beyond the small and limited contexts of humans, but the Reality of True Gods.

You ask for help, you receive acknowledgement, you receive an answer, and what you asked help about manifests very quickly. These experiences show to those of us who receive these, how real the beings are that we worship and learn from. Interesting things, such as being told I will never have to worry about my finances, and seeing how the past decade, despite all the difficulties others have, I indeed never had to worry about my finances.

Real communication, with real manifestation, no imaginary nonsense, but verifiable and true.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

Such as one time I asked the Gods to save my dying grandmother who was pronounced dead in the hospital, and she was literally given new life in front of my eyes. Not a normal healing of giving vitality and life, but a literal change of fate, allowing for 1 more year of life, in comfort, beyond what was her natural fated lifespan. That is real manifestation, speaks for itself. Real power, and an image I will never forget. It was just a taste of what is possible, and a mercy shown to my grandmother because I desperately wanted her to have a more dignified end to her life, rather than what she was given that time. With knowledge from the Gods, and with their power they can easily give someone hundreds of years of life, but this is something which must be earned first, and not many will actually receive such a Blessing in their life, but these are extremely possible.

And an aunt of mine was apparently healed completely from cancer by a xian saint. I find these stories hard to believe, honestly.

Stories by xians of people being healed or brought back to life by this saint or jeebus himself or whatever are as common as mushrooms in forests.

"God" or Gods choosing to heal this person or that person, mainly for personal emotional reasons from the askers or even for no reason sometimes, while millions die senselessly of all sorts of things.

I'm highly sceptical of any "healing" story. You believe it was the Gods, a xian would say it was jeebus, and I'd say it was likely just the body being more resilient than it appeared to be.

People pray all the time and get no answers, but only remember the times they "get answers", and "answers" seem to arrive regardless of the person's religion.

Or perhaps the enemy can do healings as well?

Even then, these things are always done in an unverifiable fashion, at least for those who weren't personally there during the event.

 

[Skolva]

And an aunt of mine was apparently healed completely from cancer by a xian saint. I find these stories hard to believe, honestly.

Stories by xians of people being healed or brought back to life by this saint or jeebus himself or whatever are as common as mushrooms in forests.

"God" or Gods choosing to heal this person or that person, mainly for personal emotional reasons from the askers or even for no reason sometimes, while millions die senselessly of all sorts of things.

I'm highly sceptical of any "healing" story. You believe it was the Gods, a xian would say it was jeebus, and I'd say it was likely just the body being more resilient than it appeared to be.

People pray all the time and get no answers, but only remember the times they "get answers", and "answers" seem to arrive regardless of the person's religion.

Or perhaps the enemy can do healings as well?

Even then, these things are always done in an unverifiable fashion, at least for those who weren't personally there during the event.

I don't think Christianity would lack actual cases of healing,either by the enemy as breadcrumbs to keep the faith going,or actual psychic healing by the congregation itself.
One Christian would lack power but I doubt that's the case with a handful of them,